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I just ordered follistatin and adipotide

None of you will ever know what it's like to have this kind of body yourselves:

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Follistatin is to destroy (apoptosis) muscle inhibiting myostatins, that surround the muscle and prevent over production of muscle proteins.

These drugs do things that the body doesn't do naturally or isn't programmed to do. That's the real trick.

I can go on a ketogenic diet where I only eat greek yogurt (for the gut), and salmon patties cooked in coconut oil using free-range brown eggs and doused in omega 3s and coconut oil and starve for the rest of the day.

Yet, all that's going to happen is that white fats will turn to brown fats so lipolysis can occur.

Adipotide does more than make fat easier to burn, it does more than burn fat, it cuts off circulation to fat cells and does a little trick called apoptosis. Cell death.

Proven to reduce overall body-fat by 39% in a month. There's nothing like it. I had to order it from the UK because it's not approved by the FDA and I'm not supposed to use it for anything other than research, so I had to pretend it was for medical research when I ordered it.

The myostatin inhibition might not work to cause a noticeable alteration in body structure, but the adipotide most undoubtedly will.

-wild card.

You have to take risks to do things other people can't, or to have things they can't. You need to laugh in the face of danger.

Humans are the only species capable of obesity, we don't synthesize collagen vitamins like other animals. All that energy the animals use to synthesize collagen boosts their metabolism and makes obesity impossible for them. Animals have to hibernate and rely on monounsaturated fats and proteins to make it through the winter.

Humans can eat carbs, and transfats, because these things are easy to get to. Their at our supermarkets. So not only do we get fat that makes more fat from sugar, we then don't spend any energy making the nutrient collagen that's inside foods with sugar and carbs and transfats and estrogen dairy.

Not only that, but without adipotide fat cells may sustain lipolysis, but they don't undergo apoptosis. There's zero chance you'll be as thin as a kid again if you get fat. Unless you get your hands on some adipotide.

The key to honing your senses, making your mind more powerful, making yourself thinner, is by not consuming sugar or carbs. Sugar and carbs and lack of sleep are the root cause of the ineptitude of modern man, intellectually, physically. That and stressful office jobs.

Relax, commit crimes, put the fork down, get rich, stay out of school. Don't help this Dystopia, don't be a cog in its wheel. That's my best advice.


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Get it!

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Originally posted by Oneness

-These drugs do things that the body doesn't do naturally or isn't programmed to do. That's the real trick.




-Humans are the only species capable of obesity


-You're going to end up hurting yourself.


-Actually not true. I've seen obese cats, dogs, rats and mice, to name a few.


Protip: If you want a healthy muscular well sculpted body that you can sustain, there are no real shortcuts or tricks. Eat very healthy, workout correctly and consistently. Even then it's not guaranteed since genetics plays a substantial role.


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there are no tricks.
39% reduction in BMI 100% of the time sounds pretty concrete to me.


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This is what follistatin does:



I don't need to MAKE AN @$$ myself with your petty nutrition.

I don't like trying to do things. TRY comes before FAIL. I'm INCAPABLE OF FAILURE. So no, I'll leave body building to the fat body builders and instead as an alternative I'll just BE BRAD PITT instead of building up to Brad Pitt.

Get out of here, lol.


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there are no tricks. Never. Nada. I'm closing my mind.
Scientific method = adipotide's effectiveness. = myostatin's effectiveness. The risks, are worth it.

This is 2015, there's novel information, there're novel inventions, and let's face it nutrition and training don't work for everyone. At least not to the extent of perfection. Genetics do.


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I'm so sick of making time to train.

Nutrition is fine, I have to go through the hassle to prepare meals that are healthier but I can't afford to train like Muhammad Ali every day of the year. Plus, I get hurt trying to develop that kind of lean mass in the gym.

But I need those kinds of results that the Creme de Le Creme in athletics get. Without so much exercise. Adipotide myostatin combo will actually easier on my body than destroying it with the cardio + circuits + supersets it'd take to get there. In less time too, I don't need to wait 2 years of hard labor to like a Demi-God.

To look like that without drugs, takes honed precision in the gym. It takes mixing it up every month when your lean mass plateaus, it takes dehydration and cutting carbs before a show. That's just not reasonable, neither are my self-standards. It's an impasse. With these drugs I don't need to over-train, starve my body, sleep 8 hours at same fall asleep wake-up routine every single Goddamn night, dehydrate myself, to get the cut.

You don't seem to understand what it really requires to look like pure-sex. You may know what the requisites are to look better, slightly better. No, not good enough for me, you don't understand that the body will struggle to look a certain way. You can't just add on heaps of muscle, and if you try you'll hit a plateau.


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Yeah, I'm well aware of the myostatin thing/that kid, I made a thread about in it the GDF back in 2008: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f11/t486655.html

But that kid (along with a few others) has a rare genetic disorder. You injecting yourself, drinking and pill-popping won't accomplish what he was born with. But you're not open to listening, so godspeed in doing whatever thumb up


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But that kid (along with a few others) has a rare genetic disorder. You injecting yourself, drinking and pill-popping won't accomplish what he was born with.
I already said this in my OP.

But it's definitely going to do more than straight steroid-cycling would. And that, is a fukload of a lot of muscle growth.

Combined with SOME calisthenics kings strength training and intensive cardio, sporadically, along with my "brown-fat" diet; yea, you're looking at Fight Club Brad Pitt or Doctor Manhattan later down the road of consistent "pill-popping" after no more than 3 months of adipotide has reduced the quantity of fat cells (something that wouldn't even be possible without the drug).

It's the adipotide that'll do the trick. You keep arguing that I could get better results without ever taking that, as if there's a snow ball's chance in hell, as if there's even a probability. How about no?

I won't see those kinds of results otherwise.


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But you're not open to listening, so godspeed in doing whatever thumb up


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@Rob

Your arguments were

1. Adipotide is dangerous and not approved by the FDA - conceded in OP
2. Follistatin pills =/= an actual genetic deficiency in myostatin and won't turn me into the Hulk like it did that kid - conceded in OP
3. Adipotide is just another diet pill - wrong, sir! Wrong!

I provided a reliable statistic. It will make me skinny, the follistatin may only help me gain muscle a little bit, but the adipotide will undoubtedly cause a visual change in my body type. Remember, it deprives fat cells of vital circulation, causing them to die, this is not expelling lipids from my fat cells through diet and exercise, this is killing the fat cells something that doesn't happen naturally.

And if I do die from the adipotide, and I looked at the side-effects and there's actually a chance I will especially since I'm also doing speed and self-medicating on high-strength nicoderm patches (doubling up the patches).

But if I do die, at least I won't have to wonder why only the girls I like don't like me. lol

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Doctor Manhattan had a small blue penis. Why do you want to emulate that look?
When I saw the film I heard the score (never heard it before), listened to Doctor Manhattan articulate, watched Sally Jupiter gawk at his Godly physique, and I thought, "man, wouldn't it be nice to be superior."

I did not think about his penis because I grew up masturbating to large-breasted Spanish women.


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@Rob

Your arguments were

1. Adipotide is dangerous and not approved by the FDA - conceded in OP
2. Follistatin pills =/= an actual genetic deficiency in myostatin and won't turn me into the Hulk like it did that kid - conceded in OP
3. Adipotide is just another diet pill - wrong, sir! Wrong!

I provided a reliable statistic. It will make me skinny, the follistatin may only help me gain muscle a little bit, but the adipotide will undoubtedly cause a visual change in my body type. Remember, it deprives fat cells of vital circulation, causing them to die, this is not expelling lipids from my fat cells through diet and exercise, this is killing the fat cells something that doesn't happen naturally.

And if I do die from the adipotide, and I looked at the side-effects and there's actually a chance I will especially since I'm also doing speed and self-medicating on high-strength nicoderm patches (doubling up the patches).

But if I do die, at least I won't have to wonder why only the girls I like don't like me. lol



Actually not true at all, my post was:

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-You're going to end up hurting yourself.


-Actually not true. I've seen obese cats, dogs, rats and mice, to name a few.


Protip: If you want a healthy muscular well sculpted body that you can sustain, there are no real shortcuts or tricks. Eat very healthy, workout correctly and consistently. Even then it's not guaranteed since genetics plays a substantial role.


edit: and I stand firm that you're not going to achieve what you want by taking these drugs and will likely just end up hurting yourself.


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you're not going to achieve what you want by taking these drugs
It would be easier to sustain lean mass when there're no longer fat cells there, than otherwise.

So actually, you're wrong about sustaining it, once they're gone, that's all she wrote. You don't lose fat, ever. You lose lipids and the fat shrinks. Adipotide doesn't work that way.

Also, I maintain that amping my follistatin production will decrease myostatin proteins, decreasing the amount of muscle my body thinks it can have. It's better than steroid cycling, and steroid cycling itself takes a body-builder far beyond what's normally possible, does it not?


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It would be easier to sustain lean mass when there're no longer fat cells there, than otherwise.

So actually, you're wrong about sustaining it, once they're gone, that's all she wrote. You don't lose fat, ever. You lose lipids and the fat shrinks. Adipotide doesn't work that way.

Also, I maintain that amping my follistatin production will decrease myostatin proteins, decreasing the amount of muscle my body thinks it can have. It's better than steroid cycling, and steroid cycling itself takes a body-builder far beyond what's normally possible, does it not?


Yes. That is correct in the general sense. But you're ignoring a couple things:

A) Like in liposuction, those removed (killed in your case) fat cells have a good chance of coming back, often in different part of your body. Genetics can't really be fooled for long, in short.

B) The fat-loss machine is a 20+ Billion (with a B) dollar a year industry in the US alone. If that drug was indeed the "miracle" weight loos cure as it was called when it first came out, it would be on every shelf. But it's not, it's actually dangerous and its ability to do what it's supposed to do is suspect.

Should also add a C) You're fairly lean guy as is, so your "I'm fat" is likely a self-image thing that pill popping and injections won't cure.

In regards to the myostatin thing. It's so far a hoax, there are several "myostatin inhibitors" and the like on the market , but it's BS. Maybe in the future some actual safe drug will come that will turn you into little Liam, but not today.

So like I said, you're not going to achieve what you wish doing this and you'll likely end up hurting yourself, namely your kidneys and liver.


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Yes. That is correct in the general sense. But you're ignoring a couple things:

A) Like in liposuction, those removed (killed in your case) fat cells have a good chance of coming back, often in different part of your body. Genetics can't really be fooled for long, in short.


This isn't like liposuction though. ABC logic.

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its ability to do what it's supposed to do is suspect.


Source?

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In regards to the myostatin thing. It's so far a hoax, there are several "myostatin inhibitors" and the like on the market , but it's BS.


Look at the ingredients, if there's no activin it's not legit.

Not my fault the pharmacuatical companies take advantage of saps.

I do my homework.

Tried and tested

Now do yours.

And don't let it be what you heard on an internet forum.

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Pfff


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From your own article:

However, the fat-seeker seems to share some of the problems that have plagued diet pills in the past – drug safety. It appeared to cause some dehydration, a moderate drop in the monkeys’ phosphorus and potassium levels and small kidney lesions in some. Those effects disappeared after the drug was discontinued, but obviously the researchers still need to tinker with the drug structure before human trials. And hopefully, they can come up with an oral version to save us from injections too!

Until then, it’s good-old diet, exercise"


Moving on to the Fol:

"After running 3 vials of Follistatin 344, I conclude the stuff is bunk for us humans. There were no extra gains to speak of, and no added fat loss on top of what I was already taking. Safe to say folks, no need to waste your money on the stuff. Hard to say how others running logs have claimed 10lbs in 10 days. Maybe they got some other harsh compound in its place. Extra water? Who knows. Regardless, now I(we) know for sure, and you fellas don't need to waste your money on the stuff. Fair chunk of change down the drain but well worth the first hand knowledge. Thanks for reading all! Feel free to hop in the CJC DAC log, I'll be running that for many months to come." link'

Fol and tendons: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18162552

Not that it matters, so let me repeat for a 3rd time:

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