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KMC Tournament - Martian_mind vs abhilegend

Rules

Power Level & Format: 2-character amalgam. Low Herald each.

Post Limit: 5

CIS & PIS is OFF!: We are drafting 2 characters, and its abilities. You the participant take ownership of how said characters & abilities will be realized in combat.

Character Knowledge: Contestants are fully aware the characters drafted, including its history, and weaknesses.
Also the Amalgam can use powers as good as the originals.

Amping Rules: Disallowed. Materials that aid a power (i.e. Jeffries/adamantium) are allowed. Power amping is not (i.e. The Ray + Kara)

Note: Amping is a state of empowerment fueled by some source source, that increases a characters physical prowess or ability.


Tech Creation & Non-Autonomous Constructs/Summons: Low Herald limit.

No you can not summon an entire realm or dimension.

You are in control of the character, but you are also confined to what that character has accomplished historically.

You can't borrow feats from someone else, even if your similar characters.

Example:
X-Man can not Borrow Feats Cable.
G.L. Hal can not Borrow Feats from G.L. John.


Prep: You are given time to raise shields. Otherwise NO prep time.

Creating gear can only take place in the heat of battle, after the bell has rung.

TP: Low Herald

Speed: Up to lightspeed.

Banned Powers: Reality Warp, Time Manip., Duplication, Power Copying, Autonomous Constructs (tech or magic), Memory Retention

Note: Space Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, and the Speed Force is allowed provided that the drafted characters are low herald and below.

Functional Immortals are Banned: Functional immortals such as Lobo, Mr. Immortal, Deadpool are disallowed or voided.


Standard Gear Rule Character comes in with what he is historically known for caring.

Non standard gear must be created you NOT grab it from your lab, and equip yourself with it.

BFR BFR is banned.

Self BFR is only good for phasing.

Good for 1 second.
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Date: July 19 - August 02
Martian_mind vs abhilegend
Martian_mind: Forerunner & Apocalypse
abhilegend: Jade Starheart & Ronan
Location: Earth - Roman Colosseum
Judges: krisblaze, SquallX, Board Walker


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Martian_mind: Forerunner & Apocalypse

Cool beans, hopefully this works now.


Alright, ladies and gentlemen! Here we stand, on the precipice of yet another titanic clash! In one corner stands my infamous opponent, the Kal-el loving, Marvel-hating ragamuffin known as Abhi. His amalgam is indeed a functional combination, while his debating talents are known far and wide. He will try to lie and mislead with his scans, while lowballing and disregarding my own. This tactic has worked for him in the past. It shall not prove viable this day!

So, without further ado, let us get to the battle
My amalgam is known as Ouroboros, the beginning and the end. Her power is immense, as is her versatility. Indeed, so great is her power that she can morph any part of her body into any material that she wishes, as she possesses complete control over her molecular structure!
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/ju...VsJla1.jpg.html

What this means, is that from the onset of the battle, I will cover myself in a second skin composed entirely of wood. Nothing that lower my durability or puts me at risk, yet enough to ensure that the Starheart is completely ineffective. Because, as we all know, it is completely useless and defenceless against such a material.
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Des...b1ffd5.jpg.html

Öcanít even stop a bugÖ

So, Abhiís Starheart born shields/constructs and attacks are useless, which leaves only whatever protection Ronan can offer. Which isnít much, in the face of my awesome speed.
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-3925552/
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-3925553/
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-3925554/
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-3925579/
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-3925580/
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-3925660/

As you can see, I am far and away the fastest fighter in this competition, especially as Apocalypse allows me to enhance my reflexes even further.
http://i.imgur.com/r040yM0.jpg
So, basically, Abhi is getting KTFOíd in the first few seconds of this match. My Wooden armour allows me to slip past one set of his defences with ease, while my sheer speed means Iíll be on top of him before his other half allows him to mount any form of defence.

BUT THATíS NOT ALL!!
I am also far and away the physically strongest warrior in this competition. Aside from the above Donna Troy ownage, Forerunner possesses enough strength to leave an alternate Wonder Woman looking like she accepted a drink from Mindset.
http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Re...0JLN/8.jpg.html
And enough to drop Donna Troy, once again through a combination of Strength and speed.
http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Re...rawl/2.jpg.html
http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Re...rawl/3.jpg.html

Now please, keep in mind, while Forerunnerís speed and ferocity alone makes her more than a match for whatever strategy litte Abhi could propose, heís not just dealing with her alone. Itís her strength, backed by the strength of Apocalypse himself. You know, the guy strong enough to do this-

http://i.imgur.com/0CbWN5c.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hG9ONvK.jpg

Or this-
http://i.imgur.com/v93ZG0C.png

Or even this-
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...morph3.png.html

http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...morph4.png.html
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...morph5.png.html


-So as you can see, any attack I land will shatter Abhiís shield, and body, like it was glass. And Iím going to be throwing hundreds, before he even thinks to launch a counterattack. Hell, with my speed and power, itís doubtful heíll be able to concentrate enough to even try and use the Starheart, or any of its abilities. Not that it matters, as again, my wood-shielded frame will slip through it without an issue.
Now, letís suppose Abhi does mount some form of offense. Letís give him the benefit of the doubt, and say he lands a hit. It wonít do jack shit. As the above scan shows, Donna troy nearly broke her hand just hitting Forerunner once.
http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Re...onna/6.jpg.html
While Monarch himself couldnít drop her with a cheapshot. (Another little note about her strength and speed. Monarch had no doubt that she could tear open his suit)
http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Re...2002/1.jpg.html
http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Re...2002/2.jpg.html


I mean Christ, the ONLY time she was properly defeated, Not only was she fighting a whole team, but she was hit by the power of a small star, and was still intact.
http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Re...0JLM/1.jpg.html
http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Re...0JLM/2.jpg.html
http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Re...0JLM/3.jpg.html
http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Re...0JLM/4.jpg.html
http:// http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Re...0JLM/5.jpg.html
http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Re...0JLM/6.jpg.html

Now, consider just how durable Forerunner is alone. Now, letís throw Apocís shields, durability, and healing capabilities into the mixture.
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...owers4.png.html

As you saw in the scans above, Ikaris was incapable of harming him. As were Loki, and the High Evolutionary.
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...owers1.png.html
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...wers24.png.html
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...powe25.png.html
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...powe26.png.html
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http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...wers15.png.html
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...wers16.png.html

As you can see, with Apocalypseís own natural durability, agility and strength added to Forerunnerís, I am virtually invincible, with a damage output that NO shield, especially Abhiís neutered Starheart, will be capable of handling. Any injury I do take, well, that is gone in a matter of moments.
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...ocstab.png.html
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...cstab2.png.html
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...ernate.png.html

Shit, not even decapitation will work.
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...chulk4.png.html

Do you need any more? You shouldnít. It is abundantly clear that from the onset of this match, I am more than capable of bull-rushing Abhi faster than he can possibly react, and beating him to death at my leisure, without fear or concern of any retaliation.

**** it, Iíll give you more.
Not only will I be assaulting him physically, but I will also be attacking him with a mental assault that is capable of dropping Jean grey.
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...onic53.png.html
And, Xavier himself.
http://i.imgur.com/W7OAZaR.jpg

So, to summarize.
I am faster. I am stronger. I am more durable. One half of his amalgam is useless, as:
A) My wooden armour ensures my protection, and ability to bypass him completely.
B) My mental attack will either KTFO him, or leave his will too drained to be of any use.
C) Iím simply so fast and strong, heíll be unconscious before he can think of a counterattack. As per the rules, all he can do is raise a basic shield in prep. Iíll have torn that shield down before he even gets off a thought.

So, as you can see, there really isnít anything Abhi can do. His mind is my plaything, as is his body. I will be pounding into him from the onset, driving into his supple body so hard and fast he wonít know what to do, but scream, lie there, and take it.

Oh yes, I know what I said.

Let the games begin!


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abhilegend: Jade Starheart & Ronan
Alright, letsís get this started.

First of all my heavy hitter, Jade. She is powered by legendary starheart and has one of the coolest outfits to boot. So at the very start of the match, she will throw a shield which is totally impervious to anything and everything anybody can throw. Just for the emphasis, here she is shielding Washington from Omega Man's attacks (which killed nearly everyone on Tangent Earth and CSA earth, mind you) for three days straight.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_1.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_2.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_3.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_4.jpg.html


Anything and everything to breach the shield was failed. Superman, Alan, Hal, Dr. Fate, Power Girl and every heavy hitter they could find made no scracth on the field. Energy absorbing it couldn't be done. Phasing via Ms. Martian or Flashes couldn't be done. Dimensional teleporing couldn't be done. Shrinking down and enetering couldn't be done.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_5.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_6.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_7.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_8.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_9.jpg.html

And she held it for three days straight without any strain at all.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...lds_10.jpg.html

So in short, there is nothing can be done to breach my shields.

Now I'll simply throw a cone of invisibility around myself which is light proof and sound proof.

http://i.imgur.com/aQsn4PC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CesI6xa.jpg

So, there is no way of detecting me either.

Now on offensive, I will first throw a barrier of absolute zero around Apocarunner. Which can hold even a herald of Galactus.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...ronan2.jpg.html

At absolute zero, Apocrunner can't even move as his molecules would stop moving.

And a stasis field which would turn all his powers back at him.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...ronan4.jpg.html

And finally a temporal displacement bubble around Apocrunner to ensure that all his energies get burned out.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...troom4.jpg.html

And we all know how quickly Apocalypse can burn his power out.

So, in short Apocrunner can't touch me, he can't see me while I can simply shut his molecules down, turn his powers back against him and burn all his energies out.

That's just for starters. Remain tuned kids, there is much more to come.


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Martian_mind
telepathy+debates+=Pwned

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Location: Australia

Alright, lets get to it.

First things first, I will freely admit that my own computer illiteracy means that any scans I provide have been commandeered from the characters respect threads. If there is unprovided context, it is because that is how the scans were presented in the aforementioned thread. If Abhi can provide scanned evidence of any undeclared context, I will happily concede these points.

As to his arguments.

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abhilegend: Jade Starheart & Ronan
Alright, letsís get this started.

First of all my heavy hitter, Jade. She is powered by legendary starheart and has one of the coolest outfits to boot. So at the very start of the match, she will throw a shield which is totally impervious to anything and everything anybody can throw. Just for the emphasis, here she is shielding Washington from Omega Man's attacks (which killed nearly everyone on Tangent Earth and CSA earth, mind you) for three days straight.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_1.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_2.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_3.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_4.jpg.html


Anything and everything to breach the shield was failed. Superman, Alan, Hal, Dr. Fate, Power Girl and every heavy hitter they could find made no scracth on the field. Energy absorbing it couldn't be done. Phasing via Ms. Martian or Flashes couldn't be done. Dimensional teleporing couldn't be done. Shrinking down and enetering couldn't be done.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_5.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_6.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_7.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_8.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_9.jpg.html

And she held it for three days straight without any strain at all.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...lds_10.jpg.html

So in short, there is nothing can be done to breach my shields.


laughing out loud

Oh Abhi, never change.

Judges, disregard the entire above section. Fittingly, Abhi's first set of scans contain his first lie. As his OWN SCANS state, the shields strength had nothing to do with Jade. It was the fact that it existed on a different multiversal frequency to the League members themselves. God, It wasn't even all Jade.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_7.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_8.jpg.html

So yeah, Abhi has wasted precious seconds summoning a shield that will do jack shit. While this point has already been dismissed, I will also add that Abhi has no proof that Jade is capable of doing ANYTHING ELSE while holding that shield, and as such, even if it wasn't complete bullshit (Which it is) he would have simply imprisoned himself. An...interesting way to go about the battle, I'll admit.

quote:

Now I'll simply throw a cone of invisibility around myself which is light proof and sound proof.

http://i.imgur.com/aQsn4PC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CesI6xa.jpg

So, there is no way of detecting me either.



Apart from my telepathy, or you know, the fact that you never had the chance to do this, considering I was speedblitzing you into oblivion while you wasted time with an ineffective shield. Remember judges, all I really need is one blow to end this. My strength, durability and speed make me more than capable.

Hell, I can make myself invisible, if need be.

http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Re...2001/1.jpg.html

And while your cone mentions sight and sound, how will it fair against that uncanny sense of smell? This strategy is about as valid as your last.

quote:

Now on offensive, I will first throw a barrier of absolute zero around Apocarunner. Which can hold even a herald of Galactus.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...ronan2.jpg.html

At absolute zero, Apocrunner can't even move as his molecules would stop moving.



Except I won't be standing still. I'll be pounding your face into mush, while raping your mind with a broad and hearty grin.

quote:

And a stasis field which would turn all his powers back at him.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...ronan4.jpg.html



And when exactly did you set up this stasis field? Seems an awful lot like it was a product of the environment, and not Ronan's personal creation. Hell, considering that it's already been established that you'll be directing your first efforts towards the shield that doesn't work, all of this is irrelevant. That one second is all I need, and you've given it to me in spades.

quote:

And finally a temporal displacement bubble around Apocrunner to ensure that all his energies get burned out.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...troom4.jpg.html

And we all know how quickly Apocalypse can burn his power out.


With Foreunner's power backing his own? I imagine it would take a while. Either way, this is yet another moot point. The match is over as soon as it begins. I'll be in your head, and my fist will be in your chest. All of your strategies require me to be standing still, or willing to give you time to set up. You have neither of these luxuries.

quote:

So, in short Apocrunner can't touch me, he can't see me while I can simply shut his molecules down, turn his powers back against him and burn all his energies out.


I can, I will and you sure haven't. What has happened is that my overwhelming speed has smashed through your shield of lies (Or 'The Abhi' as it is affectionately known) while my telepathy and fists of fury have left you more vegetative than normal. Christ, all I need to do is morph my hand into a blade, and it's goodnight Irene.

Seriously Judges, take a good, hard look at what Abhi has offered. His attacks only prove effective against immobile, unprepared opponents, or beings who were bred to be subservient to him. What he faces is a vicious, agile, telepathic
warrior who will not stop moving, or hitting him, until he is no more.

Ouroboros is Jonan's ultimate nightmare. This isn't even a contest.


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Prince of All Saiyans

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Post 1

quote:
*Darthgobber lite post attempt*


First of all, I would like to say just one thing.

Don't bring a martian to a Superman fight.

With tactics like these I'm not surprised you lost to someone like TricksterPriest.

quote:

What this means, is that from the onset of the battle, I will cover myself in a second skin composed entirely of wood. Nothing that lower my durability or puts me at risk, yet enough to ensure that the Starheart is completely ineffective. Because, as we all know, it is completely useless and defenceless against such a material.


First of all, you have presented no proof that Apocalypse can turn his skin or molecules to Wood. You have just posted random scans of Alan before he became Sentinel having a wood weakness. Which went away when he absorbed the dark aspect of the starheart and became sentinel. Just like Jade did in JLA 48 when she absorbed all the dark aspects of Starheart to free Alan from its control.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23631074/17.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23631076/18-19.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23631078/20-21.jpg.html

She doesn't has a weakness to wood anymore. But first post a scan of Apocalypse turning his skin into wood.

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So, Abhiís Starheart born shields/constructs and attacks are useless, which leaves only whatever protection Ronan can offer. Which isnít much, in the face of my awesome speed.

Haha, what? Sneak attacking Donna Troy and Jason Todd is speed feat now? And tripping a featless Flash? Ronan alone has enough refelexs to hit a travelling Living Lightning and transform him back to his human form by transmuting and blocking his access to his powers. You know, the guy who is actually living lightning and travells at that speed? Yeah, good luck blitzing me. You are not suckerpuncing me.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23631072/10.jpg.html

Jade can oneshot a genuine speedster Johnny Quick.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23631080/032.jpg.html

Your puny speed is not even worth my attention.


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As you can see, I am far and away the fastest fighter in this competition, especially as Apocalypse allows me to enhance my reflexes even further.
Strike two: he didn't increase his reflexes, he just shapeshifted and caught classic pietro by enlarging his hands. A subsonic speedster that is.

quote:
Snip
Yeah, right. You just forgot to take account my shields, speed, durability, strength, invisibility and pretty much everything else. Just peachy, isn't he?

quote:

I am also far and away the physically strongest warrior in this competition. Aside from the above Donna Troy ownage, Forerunner possesses enough strength to leave an alternate Wonder Woman looking like she accepted a drink from Mindset.
Alternate wonder woman with no feats!!!!!!!! Holy non feat batman!

quote:
And enough to drop Donna Troy, once again through a combination of Strength and speed.
Excluding the fact that Forerunner suckershotted Donna while she was fighting someone else, eh?


quote:
Now please, keep in mind, while Forerunnerís speed and ferocity alone makes her more than a match for whatever strategy litte Abhi could propose, heís not just dealing with her alone. Itís her strength, backed by the strength of Apocalypse himself. You know, the guy strong enough to do this-

Celestial armor Apocalypse which was wrecked in the fight and never appeared again. Against a young Thor. Not impressed in any way or form.

Not that it matters, since its a specific celestial armor Apocalypse which is not applicable here.

Strike three.

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Or this-
He can come behind Hulk and strangle him with tubes while Hulk has no way of stopping him as he is not even able to reach the tubes? Mr. Hyde did the same to the hulk two issues later.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/233...58_17a.jpg.html


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Or even this-
Since when beating Ikaris of any value? You want real strength? Ronan kills Black Dwarf in one hit. The same Black Dwarf was smacking around Gladiator, Annihilus and Super Skrulls like they were his bitches.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...rr2fe9.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...vii45d.jpg.html


Yeah, Hydocalypse has nothing on that level.

quote:
-So as you can see, any attack I land will shatter Abhiís shield, and body, like it was glass. And Iím going to be throwing hundreds, before he even thinks to launch a counterattack. Hell, with my speed and power, itís doubtful heíll be able to concentrate enough to even try and use the Starheart, or any of its abilities. Not that it matters, as again, my wood-shielded frame will slip through it without an issue.


Heh, its like going through MasterBruce's arguments. Nothing substantial at all, just empty boasts. And blitzing Jason Todd means he can throw hundreds of punches before I can even blink? That's just.....

......

Hahahaha.

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As the above scan shows, Donna troy nearly broke her hand just hitting Forerunner once.
Donna Troy cut her hand. Not broke it. Not that it matters. I'm far stronger than Donna Troy and my hammer doesn't gets bruises and cuts!!!!

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While Monarch himself couldnít drop her with a cheapshot. (Another little note about her strength and speed. Monarch had no doubt that she could tear open his suit)
Monarch was trying to teach her a lesson and Monarch saying something doesn't means she could actually do it. If yes, provide teh scanz!!!!



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I mean Christ, the ONLY time she was properly defeated, Not only was she fighting a whole team, but she was hit by the power of a small star, and was still intact.
Haha, what? Starman saying he hit her with impact of a little star and we actually take his word on it? Y'know without any feats from Starman or to indicate he could attack with the impact of a star?


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Now, consider just how durable Forerunner is alone. Now, letís throw Apocís shields, durability, and healing capabilities into the mixture.
Such a out of context scan. That's from X factor 68 where Apocalypse was getting amped by Cable's energy. In fact when the amp got cut, Cyclops destroyed his technically created body which you're seeing in the scan.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...281729.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...281829.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...281529.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...281629.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...281729.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...281829.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...281929.jpg.html

I mean Cyclops destroyed his body. You can't get lower than that.

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As you saw in the scans above, Ikaris was incapable of harming him. As were Loki, and the High Evolutionary.
Loki was not there to fight Apocalypse and High Evolutionary is a pussy who gets beaten by everyone. Heck even amped he could not beat Grey Hulk without exerting every ounce of his power. Not that it matters as we have way better


quote:
As you can see, with Apocalypseís own natural durability, agility and strength added to Forerunnerís, I am virtually invincible, with a damage output that NO shield, especially Abhiís neutered Starheart, will be capable of handling. Any injury I do take, well, that is gone in a matter of moments.
Haha, what? One single stab brought Apocalypse to his knees. The second scan is after several pages and after some considerable time.
quote:
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nightmareman95/media/apocregernate.png.html


Regenerating across centuries and still getting his shit kicked in.

Way to go Hydocalypse!! You can go sleep again after getting your shit kicked in again.

quote:
Shit, not even decapitation will work.
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...chulk4.png.html


Hahaha, that's from Sensational She Hulk 30 where a future Apocalypse was brought back. Its not even his head, its just a hologram and its non canon to 616 Apocalypse.

This is just getting funnier and funnier.

quote:
Snip


Hahaha, again with Masterbruce arguments, huh?

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**** it, Iíll give you more.
Not only will I be assaulting him physically, but I will also be attacking him with a mental assault that is capable of dropping Jean grey.
Again with out of context scans, eh? That's not even a TP attack, he just reflected her attack back at him and flat out says that So you have the power to see into men's minds, to influence them... to control them. Surely, there is no power greater than that. This is something I shall prepare for!". He didn't TP attack her, its just a case of menatl defenses like Magneto defelcting her TP right back at her.
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And, Xavier himself.
http://i.imgur.com/W7OAZaR.jpg
For ****'s sake, that's Apocalypse amped on the power of The Twelve and Nate Grey. Way to go AGAIN!!

Apocalypse on his own can't even travel to astral plane on his own and needs Cable to transport them to astral plane.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...e_Gird.jpg.html

That's a rudimentary TP trick. When you actually have Apocalypse using TP offensively or actually doing TP on his own, call me. Untill then you're just throwing hot air at me.



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Snip


laughing out loud

At this point I can just laugh.

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Oh yes, I know what I said.

Let the games begin!


This is why people say "Never send a martian to do a Superman's job".


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Continued

Now here is what's going to happen, I have secured myself within my shields and have already blocked Apocrunner's molecule moving, turned his powers back at him and burned his energies out. Now my armor can check and instantly update about any enemy's weakness and strengths. By doing this Ronan has killed a skrull clone of surfer who actually beat the real surfer!!

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...raldd5.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...mpers3.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...mpers4.jpg.html

Killed him in three attacks. So I will know of every weakness and strength Apocrunner has. So I will throw a vacuum across me.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...troom5.jpg.html

Forerunner has already been owned by such a move when Monarch nearly killed her by it and she was saved by a space ship.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...runner.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...unner1.jpg.html

Apoc has also nearly died by thrown into space until a celestial saved his ass.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23631398/20.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23631400/21.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23631402/25.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23631404/29.jpg.html

So yeah, Apocrunner will suffocate, his powers blocked like Living Lightning, his molecules will be frozen, powers turned back at him and all his energies burned out.

Martian "Lost to TricksterPriest" Mind's response "Punchy punch punch" at an impervious shield.

He can do absolutely nothing here.
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Originally posted by Martian_mind
Alright, lets get to it.

First things first, I will freely admit that my own computer illiteracy means that any scans I provide have been commandeered from the characters respect threads. If there is unprovided context, it is because that is how the scans were presented in the aforementioned thread. If Abhi can provide scanned evidence of any undeclared context, I will happily concede these points.

As to his arguments.


Accepting defeat so soon? I'm not even started yet!!!!

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Futile attempt to disprove on panel scans
Haha, what? It was flat out shown and stated that Jade created that shield. Just because it was operational on a different multiversal frequency does not disprove anything, it just reinforces what I said.

Here Jade creates the shield.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_1.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_2.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_3.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_4.jpg.html

And I'm throwing a personal shield, the universal hammer will be partially inside the shield and partially outside the shield. So I don't have anything to hit me while I can freely use all my abilities by channeling all the energies through universal hammer.

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Random scan about invisibility from Forerunner and speedblitzing


Ronan can track even invisible characters like Invisible Woman. It will do you no good.


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Oh Abhi, never change.

Judges, disregard the entire above section. Fittingly, Abhi's first set of scans contain his first lie. As his [b]OWN SCANS
state, the shields strength had nothing to do with Jade. It was the fact that it existed on a different multiversal frequency to the League members themselves. God, It wasn't even all Jade.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_7.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_8.jpg.html

So yeah, Abhi has wasted precious seconds summoning a shield that will do jack shit. While this point has already been dismissed, I will also add that Abhi has no proof that Jade is capable of doing ANYTHING ELSE while holding that shield, and as such, even if it wasn't complete bullshit (Which it is) he would have simply imprisoned himself. An...interesting way to go about the battle, I'll admit.

Haha, what? It was flat out shown and stated that Jade created that shield. Just because it was operational on a different multiversal frequency does not disprove anything, it just reinforces what I said.

Here Jade creates the shield.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_1.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_2.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_3.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_4.jpg.html

Heck, its outright stated and shown.

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And I'm throwing a personal shield, the universal hammer will be partially inside the shield and partially outside the shield. So I don't have anything to hit me while I can freely use all my abilities by channeling all the energies through universal hammer.

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Except I won't be standing still. I'll be pounding your face into mush, while raping your mind with a broad and hearty grin.
So no counter at all? And who said I can't attack moving beings?





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And when exactly did you set up this stasis field? Seems an awful lot like it was a product of the environment, and not Ronan's personal creation. Hell, considering that it's already been established that you'll be directing your first efforts towards the shield that doesn't work, all of this is irrelevant. That one second is all I need, and you've given it to me in spades.
So you don't have any counter for it either? And if you don't know, Jade went to fight Omega Man after creating the shield without any trouble. So its not like she needs any concentration on the shield.

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With Foreunner's power backing his own? I imagine it would take a while. Either way, this is yet another moot point. The match is over as soon as it begins. I'll be in your head, and my fist will be in your chest. All of your strategies require me to be standing still, or willing to give you time to set up. You have neither of these luxuries.
This is just too easy at this point.


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I can, I will and you sure haven't. What has happened is that my overwhelming speed has smashed through your shield of lies (Or 'The Abhi' as it is affectionately known) while my telepathy and fists of fury have left you more vegetative than normal. Christ, all I need to do is morph my hand into a blade, and it's goodnight Irene.
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt or even Australia it seems.

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Seriously Judges, take a good, hard look at what Abhi has offered. His attacks only prove effective against immobile, unprepared opponents, or beings who were bred to be subservient to him. What he faces is a vicious, agile, telepathic
warrior who will not stop moving, or hitting him, until he is no more.

Ouroboros is Jonan's ultimate nightmare. This isn't even a contest.


You have no counters for any of my attacks, your abilities are totally worthless against my impervious shield, you will be suffocated, burned out, frozen, blocked out from your powers while I smash your head to a pulp.

You're right on only one thing in this whole match. This isn't even a contest. I have every advantage here. After all, you are good Martian, but you're not me.

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Brief intermission. Just so we are on the same page.

We are not doing a Post #1, and Continued... and allow the the Continued post to be part of post #1. Continued is viewed as Post #2

If your reply needs to be broken up into 2 posts, its simply that 2 posts.


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Alright, now that my opponent has finally reared his head, we can get this show on the road.


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Originally posted by abhilegend
[b]Post 1



First of all, I would like to say just one thing.

Don't bring a martian to a Superman fight.

With tactics like these I'm not surprised you lost to someone like TricksterPriest.


Ah yes, an old shame indeed. I have to say though, itís hardly an insult, coming from someone who often spars with the likes of Carver. (Particularly since the score-card is rather even.) Hell, loathe as I am to say it, Abhi makes TricksterPriest look like Galan.
ÖÖÖÖÖ
Ugh, true as it is, writing that still left a bad taste in my mouth. I will point out, however, that the above is a classic case of Abhi misdirection. Opening with bait-like insults to cover his absolute lack of a point, or argument.


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First of all, you have presented no proof that Apocalypse can turn his skin or molecules to Wood.

That Apocalypse possesses complete control of his molecular structure is well known. Morphing its exterior into wood will hardly be a challenge.
http://i.imgur.com/r040yM0.jpg

ďControls EVERY molecule.Ē
I mean, Christ-
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...mutate.png.html

http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...nergy2.png.html
-I can produce bullets from my own body, so creating a raised layer of wooden armour should be no issue.

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You have just posted random scans of Alan before he became Sentinel having a wood weakness. Which went away when he absorbed the dark aspect of the starheart and became sentinel. Just like Jade did in JLA 48 when she absorbed all the dark aspects of Starheart to free Alan from its control.


Judges, please read these scans. At no point is the weakness to wood mentioned, or addressed. They in no way support Abhiís claim, or even appear relevant to the debate. Itís just a pointless series of scans, intended to misdirect from a tactic he cannot counter. There is nothing here to prove his claim. I did say this would happenÖ
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Haha, what? Sneak attacking Donna Troy and Jason Todd is speed feat now? And tripping a featless Flash? Ronan alone has enough refelexs to hit a travelling Living Lightning and transform him back to his human form by transmuting and blocking his access to his powers. You know, the guy who is actually living lightning and travells at that speed? Yeah, good luck blitzing me. You are not suckerpuncing me.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23631072/10.jpg.html

Jade can oneshot a genuine speedster Johnny Quick.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23631080/032.jpg.html


Lowballing my feats, while lying and hyping up your own? Son, you really need to diversify your tactics. Theyíre getting stale. Firstly, the initial blitz was the only sneak attack. Punching Donna and outrunning her flying body? All speed baby. Even then, that doesnít negate the speed she displayed in the first assault. I donít know why youíd think that it would.
http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Re...onna/7.jpg.html
http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Re...onna/8.jpg.html
The bullet-time reflexes donít hurt either 
As to the Johnny quick scan, all youíve shown is her managing to tag Johnny in a group situation. I am far stronger, more durable, and considering Iíll be on you before you can even think, while laying out a telepathic assault, itís highly unlikely that will affect the outcome. You donít have someone backing you up here Abhi. Youíve nowhere to hide. At all.
As to the Living Lightning, thatís a pathetic showing by most standards. For Ronan though, itís actually a miracle, as he DID strike an opponent who was actually in motion! A motion that allowed him to talk to his teammates, and to have an idle chat with Ronan while the latter took aim. Iím not going to be so kind 

Also, If Iím fast enough to overwhelm Donna Troy with my speed, and react to a Flash with ease? Odds are Iím faster than lightning. Much, much faster.

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Strike two: he didn't increase his reflexes, he just shapeshifted and caught classic pietro by enlarging his hands. A subsonic speedster that is.

Considering how irrelevant this is, due to the IMMENSE gap in our speed either way, I shouldnít waste my time, but what the hell. If you look at the scan, youíll clearly see that Apocalypse has curved his entire arm around in front of Quicksilver. Itís not as though he simply made it bigger. And Subsonic he may be, but that is STILL faster than Abhiís amalgam. Though, to be fair, my opponent has always made a name for himself by being rather slow, if you catch my drift.

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Yeah, right. You just forgot to take account my shields, speed, durability, strength, invisibility and pretty much everything else.

Except you never had time to do any of that, as we covered. You specifically said the first thing youíd do is throw up your useless shield. That cost you the only microsecond you had. Your physical attributes are negligible before my own, and my telepathy and other senses render your invisibility null and void. I mean, if I can see a Watcher-
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...powe27.png.html
-I can see you. Not that I need to, mind. You never had the chance to use your cone of silence.

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Excluding the fact that Forerunner suckershotted Donna while she was fighting someone else, eh?

Öand yet ANOTHER lowball. They were in the middle of a group brawl, and considering the point was to show my speed, the cheap-shotting is hardly relevant. Thank you for bringing the scan back up though. The fact that Forerunner was able to cut her several times shows that my intent to punch you multiple times every second is totally valid. Not that I need dozens. My armour and strength will pop your shield in what, one or two blows? Iíll let the judges decide.

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Celestial armor Apocalypse which was wrecked in the fight and never appeared again. Against a young Thor..

Not that it matters, since its a specific celestial armor Apocalypse which is not applicable here.


Hey man, I acknowledged that this could happen. Provide scans proving that this isnít applicable to Apocalypseís regular strength, and Iíll concede the point. It doesnít matter either way. The other fights show that I have enough striking power to tear through you without any effort.
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He can come behind Hulk and strangle him with tubes while Hulk has no way of stopping him as he is not even able to reach the tubes? Mr. Hyde did the same to the hulk two issues later.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/233...58_17a.jpg.html


...Another attempt at lowballing? Really? Should we point out how Hyde has Mercy helping him in that scan? Or the context of the battle around them? The feats are not really comparable. Another failure Abhi. Another failure.


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Since when beating Ikaris of any value? You want real strength? Ronan kills Black Dwarf in one hit. The same Black Dwarf was smacking around Gladiator, Annihilus and Super Skrulls like they were his bitches.


erm
Do I have to say Lowball again? Everyone here knows how capable Ikaris is. Well, everyone who can pull their nose out of their semen-stained S-shield undies, though thatís neither here nor there.

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My god, a somewhat relevant feat and argument. Not too relevant mind you, since you basically showed Ronan cheap-shotting an opponent who was totally surrounded in the back of the head. Thereís no one to help you here Abhi. Honestly, has Ronan ever finished an opponent that WAS fighting back?

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Heh, its like going through MasterBruce's arguments. Nothing substantial at all, just empty boasts. And blitzing Jason Todd means he can throw hundreds of punches before I can even blink?

http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Re...rawl/3.jpg.html

I can throw a fair few at least. And thatís all I need. 
And leave Brucey out of this. He may have had his issues, yet at least the man was entertaining. More than can be said for you at this point.

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Donna Troy cut her hand. Not broke it. Not that it matters. I'm far stronger than Donna Troy and my hammer doesn't gets bruises and cuts!!!!

She was still injured, while Forerunner was unharmed. You are facing a faster, stronger, more durable version, and your hammer will never touch me.
Also, prove youíre stronger than Donna Troy. At the moment, all youíve proven is that Ronan really needs his opponents to keep still.

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Monarch was trying to teach her a lesson and Monarch saying something doesn't means she could actually do it. If yes, provide teh scanz!!!!

Haha, what? Starman saying he hit her with impact of a little star and we actually take his word on it? Y'know without any feats from Starman or to indicate he could attack with the impact of a star?

Lumping these together, as they basically amount to ďNo, you.Ē arguments. Abhi is running scared now. They may be from an alternate dimension, yet as Forerunnerís durability and strength has been shown many times over already, there is nothing that contradicts the accuracy of the statements. She threw Monarch on his back, and rather than try and overpower her (Which would be more a lesson, one would think) he pleaded to her sense of self-preservation. That should tell you all it needs to.


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...continued...

quote:

Such a out of context scan. That's from X factor 68 where Apocalypse was getting amped by Cable's energy. In fact when the amp got cut, Cyclops destroyed his technically created body which you're seeing in the scan.

I mean Cyclops destroyed his body. You can't get lower than that.

This possibility has already been acknowledged. Those scans, however, donít really seem to back up what youíre saying. Frankly, theyíre a bit of an incoherent mess. Once again though, it isnít important. My durability has been made clear in a host of other ways.
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Loki was not there to fight Apocalypse and High Evolutionary is a pussy who gets beaten by everyone. Heck even amped he could not beat Grey Hulk without exerting every ounce of his power.
Haha, what? One single stab brought Apocalypse to his knees. The second scan is after several pages and after some considerable time.
Regenerating across centuries and still getting his shit kicked in.

Grouping this together, as itís just more tedious lowballing. At this point Iíd like to formally apologize to the judges, and to offer my sincerest thanks. Itís a brave decision to volunteer for evaluating Abhiís posts. Thereís just so little actual content.
Lokiís initial intent is meaningless. They did fight, and Apoc was handling him like a champ. The showings are not made invalid just because you desperately, desperately need them to be. And if more of Apocís resilience needs to be shown-
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...effect.png.html
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...X-Cuti.jpg.html
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...0X-C-1.jpg.html
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...0X-C-2.jpg.html
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...lowsup.png.html
**** me, I even have energy blasts capable of bringing you down, considering youíve shown virtually no durability, and your shield has been rendered obsolete.
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Hahaha, that's from Sensational She Hulk 30 where a future Apocalypse was brought back. Its not even his head, its just a hologram and its non canon to 616 Apocalypse.

This is just getting funnier.

Ok, Iíll roll with this one, it is pretty funny laughing out loud Ah, that EvilAsh, he sure did like to mislead.

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Again with out of context scans, eh? That's not even a TP attack, he just reflected her attack back at him and flat out says that So you have the power to see into men's minds, to influence them... to control them. Surely, there is no power greater than that. This is something I shall prepare for!". He didn't TP attack her, its just a case of menatl defenses like Magneto defelcting her TP right back at her.
Apocalypse on his own can't even travel to astral plane on his own and needs Cable to transport them to astral plane.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...e_Gird.jpg.html

That's a rudimentary TP trick. When you actually have Apocalypse using TP offensively or actually doing TP on his own, call me. Untill then you're just throwing hot air at me.


In that circumstance, Cable was the ONLY person who could breach the Astral plain, according to Apoc. As to using telepathy on his own-
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...wers10.png.html
There you go. As to the rest of your attempts to lowball? He met them in mental combat, and was winning. I have proven that he possesses telepathy. Discussion ended? Discussion ended.

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At this point I can just laugh.

Iíll say. You sure as hell havenít been doing anything elseÖ

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This is why people say "Never send a martian to do a Superman's job". [/B]

Nah, they generally say something to the effect of ďJíonn could take him with one hand behind his back.Ē Now, as relevant as that may be to our match, I feel compelled to make sure that you know that we ARENíT actually Jíonn and Superman, ok Abhi? Theyíre fictional characters, and as real as that cherry-curled, sexually-repressed boy-scout may feel to you, thatís all heíll ever be.
God, itís like telling a child Santa isnít real.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Continued

Now here is what's going to happen, I have secured myself within my shields and have already blocked Apocrunner's molecule moving, turned his powers back at him and burned his energies out. Now my armor can check and instantly update about any enemy's weakness and strengths. By doing this Ronan has killed a skrull clone of surfer who actually beat the real surfer!!

laughing out loud
You have done nothing of the sort. You never had the chance to, as your shield was torn through seconds into the match, and I wasnít standing idle. Also, scans of this clone defeating the real surfer? Iím sure there are circumstances you are neglecting to admit. Not that it matters, as once again-
quote:

-Ronan needs time to prepare, and his opponent to be standing still. No time to prepare here Abhi. All youíve got is a fist in your face.
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I will throw a vacuum across me.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...troom5.jpg.html

So yeah, Apocrunner will suffocate, his powers blocked like Living Lightning, his molecules will be frozen, powers turned back at him and all his energies burned out.

laughing out loud What? In my first post alone, Apoc was shown perfectly content in the vacuum of space on TWO separate occasions.
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...powe25.png.html
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Nigh...morph5.png.html

Iím literally laughing at this tactic, as is Apocalypse. Your vague scan of Apocalypse slowly dying from poisoningÖsomewhereÖ doesnít prove shit. Nor am I frozen, as you never got the chance. Yet another failure Abhi laughing out loud

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Haha, what? It was flat out shown and stated that Jade created that shield. Just because it was operational on a different multiversal frequency does not disprove anything, it just reinforces what I said.
Here Jade creates the shield.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_1.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_2.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_3.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_4.jpg.html


Yeah, not gonna waste much time here. Abhi is trying a classic Strawman.
I am not claiming that Jade didnít create the shield. What I am stating, as is definitively shown in these two scans-
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_7.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_8.jpg.html
Is that the reason it cannot be harmed is the multiversal frequency on which it exists. It has nothing to do with Jadeís personal power. Itís there in black and white, and cannot be debated. So, once again, all Abhi has is a shield of feat-less power, that is completely vulnerable to my assault. Case closed.
You have to wonder though, if Jadeís shields are SO powerful, why does Abhi only present the one scan? Surely there must be some other kind of proof? Right? Right?
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And I'm throwing a personal shield, the universal hammer will be partially inside the shield and partially outside the shield. So I don't have anything to hit me while I can freely use all my abilities by channeling all the energies through universal hammer.



Proof that you can create a shield on a personal level? You have provided none. All youíve shown is that you take forever to raise a useless shield, providing me ample time to beat you down.

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So no counter at all? And who said I can't attack moving beings?


No one said it, but it sure looks that wayÖ
quote:

If you don't know, Jade went to fight Omega Man after creating the shield without any trouble. So its not like she needs any concentration on the shield.

Prove it. And her doing it afterwards in no way shows that she could construct the shield WHILE being attacked.
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This is just too easy at this point.

My sentiments exactly.

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You have no counters for any of my attacks, your abilities are totally worthless against my impervious shield, you will be suffocated, burned out, frozen, blocked out from your powers while I smash your head to a pulp.

You're right on only one thing in this whole match. This isn't even a contest. I have every advantage here. After all, you are good Martian, but you're not me.

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I donít know whatís more tedious, your inability to form a coherent argument, or your unoriginality. I mean, the best ownage in that issue is Luthor blasting Jíonn for always being late to meetings, for Christ sake.
As to the rest, once again in summary:

You donít have a shield. You donít have ANY form of defence. You cannot react to my speed, or tolerate my power. All youíve done is offer a bunch of useless offences, oozing piles of shit which you have flung at the wall, and to your horror, have failed to stick. Every.Single.One. This isnít a match. This is a beat down.
And youíre the *****.


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So, Its just "talk big, show nothing" routine, eh? We'll see after that.



quote:

Ah yes, an old shame indeed. I have to say though, itís hardly an insult, coming from someone who often spars with the likes of Carver. (Particularly since the score-card is rather even.) Hell, loathe as I am to say it, Abhi makes TricksterPriest look like Galan.

Ugh, true as it is, writing that still left a bad taste in my mouth. I will point out, however, that the above is a classic case of Abhi misdirection. Opening with bait-like insults to cover his absolute lack of a point, or argument.
Heh, don't like this kind of talk? Tip: don't start with one.



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That Apocalypse possesses complete control of his molecular structure is well known. Morphing its exterior into wood will hardly be a challenge.
http://i.imgur.com/r040yM0.jpg

ďControls EVERY molecule.Ē
I mean, Christ-

-I can produce bullets from my own body, so creating a raised layer of wooden armour should be no issue.
Holy! Not a single relevant argument or scan? Just because he has control over his molecular structure or morph his metallic skin into bullets or morphing into energy cannon doesn't mean he can turn it into wood. Not that it matters in anyway. I can simply transmute your skin and render it useless. Just like Doctor Dredd who had turned his skin into such sharpness that it cut time and space and even cut surfer. Ronan simply transmuted and turned his powers off.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...p7pbhI.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...0I_l_k.jpg.html

So I'm not even weakened by wood anymore and you just get depowered by transmutation.

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Judges, please read these scans. At no point is the weakness to wood mentioned, or addressed. They in no way support Abhiís claim, or even appear relevant to the debate. Itís just a pointless series of scans, intended to misdirect from a tactic he cannot counter. There is nothing here to prove his claim. I did say this would happenÖ


You're flailing like usual without even knowing what you're arguing. Alan when he absorbed the dark aspect of the starheart had no weakness to wood anymore.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...P00034.jpg.html

Jade even says her powers have changed after absorbing the powers of starheart's dark aspect. I will like to see a scan of Jade's shields failing to a wooden object.

The weakness is out since she absorbed the power of Starheart. Simple as that.

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Lowballing my feats, while lying and hyping up your own? Son, you really need to diversify your tactics. Theyíre getting stale. Firstly, the initial blitz was the only sneak attack. Punching Donna and outrunning her flying body? All speed baby. Even then, that doesnít negate the speed she displayed in the first assault. I donít know why youíd think that it would.

The bullet-time reflexes donít hurt either ?


Bullet time? Here Jade reacts even faster than Jesse Quick and absorbs the energy blasts of Omega Man even after it was fired.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682367/013.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682368/014.jpg.html

I laugh at your puny speed.

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As to the Johnny quick scan, all youíve shown is her managing to tag Johnny in a group situation. I am far stronger, more durable, and considering Iíll be on you before you can even think, while laying out a telepathic assault, itís highly unlikely that will affect the outcome. You donít have someone backing you up here Abhi. Youíve nowhere to hide. At all.


Haha, this is just "I don't like your scan." Cool beans bro. I know you can't counter any of my scans, so repeatedly ignoring all my scans

As to the Living Lightning, thatís a pathetic showing by most standards. For Ronan though, itís actually a miracle, as he DID strike an opponent who was actually in motion! A motion that allowed him to talk to his teammates, and to have an idle chat with Ronan while the latter took aim. Iím not going to be so kind ?

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Also, If Iím fast enough to overwhelm Donna Troy with my speed, and react to a Flash with ease? Odds are Iím faster than lightning. Much, much faster.


Haha, post a single scan of Donna or the alternate flash even being anywhere near Jesse in speed. I'll wait.


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Considering how irrelevant this is, due to the IMMENSE gap in our speed either way, I shouldnít waste my time, but what the hell. If you look at the scan, youíll clearly see that Apocalypse has curved his entire arm around in front of Quicksilver. Itís not as though he simply made it bigger. And Subsonic he may be, but that is STILL faster than Abhiís amalgam. Though, to be fair, my opponent has always made a name for himself by being rather slow, if you catch my drift.
Wait, what? How is stretching arms enhancing speed again? And your insults get even more pathetic if that was even possible.


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Except you never had time to do any of that, as we covered. You specifically said the first thing youíd do is throw up your useless shield. That cost you the only microsecond you had. Your physical attributes are negligible before my own, and my telepathy and other senses render your invisibility null and void. I mean, if I can see a Watcher-

-I can see you. Not that I need to, mind. You never had the chance to use your cone of silence.
Ah, "Only my scans are relevant" tactic again. And watcher wasn't trying to hide from Apoc there. Total useless scan there.


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Öand yet ANOTHER lowball. They were in the middle of a group brawl, and considering the point was to show my speed, the cheap-shotting is hardly relevant.
Haha, cheapshotting isn't relevant? Lulz.
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Thank you for bringing the scan back up though. The fact that Forerunner was able to cut her several times shows that my intent to punch you multiple times every second is totally valid. Not that I need dozens. My armour and strength will pop your shield in what, one or two blows? Iíll let the judges decide.
Those aren't punches. Those are her stars which Donna can block in straight up fight. Again total useless scan.


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Hey man, I acknowledged that this could happen. Provide scans proving that this isnít applicable to Apocalypseís regular strength, and Iíll concede the point. It doesnít matter either way. The other fights show that I have enough striking power to tear through you without any effort.
You conceded that you don't know shit about either characters. And Apoc ran away as soon as armor was ruptured while he was trying to kill Thor before. Its not applicable at all showing how celestial armor can enhance all abilities of who wears it like Hulk.


...Another attempt at lowballing? Really? Should we point out how Hyde has Mercy helping him in
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that scan? Or the context of the battle around them? The feats are not really comparable. Another failure Abhi. Another failure.
You just keep saying that without giving a single proof or reasoning.

And Mercy wasn't helping Hyde. She was just talking to Hulk in his head. For ****'s sake, we see Hulk attacking Hyde straight up.




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Do I have to say Lowball again? Everyone here knows how capable Ikaris is. Well, everyone who can pull their nose out of their semen-stained S-shield undies, though thatís neither here nor there.
Not really. Ikaris is small potatoes compared to heavy hitters here.
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My god, a somewhat relevant feat and argument. Not too relevant mind you, since you basically showed Ronan cheap-shotting an opponent who was totally surrounded in the back of the head. Thereís no one to help you here Abhi. Honestly, has Ronan ever finished an opponent that WAS fighting back?
Cheapshotting? He straight up killed a being who was chumping Gladiator, Annihilus and Super Skrull in one hit. While you are bragging about beating Donna ****ing Troy via cheapshot. Hypocrisy, thy name is Martian Mind. And fear not, I will post Ronan straight up beating the shit out of Genis Vell as well.


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I can throw a fair few at least. And thatís all I need. ?
Those are stars not punches, you ****ing brucey.
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And leave Brucey out of this. He may have had his issues, yet at least the man was entertaining. More than can be said for you at this point.
Aww, did I hurt your feelings?


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She was still injured, while Forerunner was unharmed. You are facing a faster, stronger, more durable version, and your hammer will never touch me.
Haha, this is just golden. You're frozen at absolute zero, your powers are blocked and I will just smash your head in at faster than Jesse Quick speeds. But I CAN'T TOUCH YOU. Really?
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Also, prove youíre stronger than Donna Troy. At the moment, all youíve proven is that Ronan really needs his opponents to keep still.
Just like Living Lightning? Eh? And killing beings that are chumping Gladiator automatically prove I'm stronger than your entire amalgam.


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Lumping these together, as they basically amount to ďNo, you.Ē arguments. Abhi is running scared now. They may be from an alternate dimension, yet as Forerunnerís durability and strength has been shown many times over already, there is nothing that contradicts the accuracy of the statements. She threw Monarch on his back, and rather than try and overpower her (Which would be more a lesson, one would think) he pleaded to her sense of self-preservation. That should tell you all it needs to.
Translation "Wah, wah, I've no feats, no scans but Abhi sucks".

Cool story bro.


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Lumping these together, as they basically amount to ďNo, you.Ē arguments. Abhi is running scared now. They may be from an alternate dimension, yet as Forerunnerís durability and strength has been shown many times over already, there is nothing that contradicts the accuracy of the statements. She threw Monarch on his back, and rather than try and overpower her (Which would be more a lesson, one would think) he pleaded to her sense of self-preservation. That should tell you all it needs to.
Translation "Wah, wah, I've no feats, no scans but Abhi sucks".

Cool story bro.
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This possibility has already been acknowledged. Those scans, however, donít really seem to back up what youíre saying. Frankly, theyíre a bit of an incoherent mess. Once again though, it isnít important. My durability has been made clear in a host of other ways.
"Possibility"? You flat out said that you don't know shit about either character. I can post entire comic here if you want so.

And no, you haven't posted a single scan for Apocalypse's durability. Not that it matters. I can oneshot even Silver Surfer in this position.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...l06-25.jpg.html

And tank full force attacks from Surfer and Genis even after Surfer cheapshots him from behind.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...l06-31.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...l06-32.jpg.html

Your attacks can't even compare to that. Not to mention I've auto shields for Ronan which can dismiss your attacks casually.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...arrel1.jpg.html

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as itís just more tedious lowballing. At this point Iíd like to formally apologize to the judges, and to offer my sincerest thanks. Itís a brave decision to volunteer for evaluating Abhiís posts. Thereís just so little actual content.
Haha, at this point you're just whining. Like Goober.
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Lokiís initial intent is meaningless. They did fight, and Apoc was handling him like a champ. The showings are not made invalid just because you desperately, desperately need them to be. And if more of Apocís resilience needs to be shown-

**** me, I even have energy blasts capable of bringing you down, considering youíve shown virtually no durability, and your shield has been rendered obsolete.
Beast, Iceman, Angel and Colossus? And he was getting owned by Colossus untill he used one of his machines to blow them up in the last scan. Pathetic as always.

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Ok, Iíll roll with this one, it is pretty funny laughing out loud Ah, that EvilAsh, he sure did like to mislead.
Ah, so you finally concede that you have no idea what you're talking about. Good.



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In that circumstance, Cable was the ONLY person who could breach the Astral plain, according to Apoc.
Because he was the only telepath there. Apoc isn't one.
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That's not telepathy. Ozymandias is connected to Apoc by his machines. As if reading minds is enough to overwhelm somebody who can burn them totally if they even touch her mind like Jade.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23683057/26-27.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23683059/28.jpg.html


Ronan can absorb all the psychic energy of Magus which was controlling entire planet and contain it.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682601/005.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682604/009.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682606/010.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682609/015.jpg.html

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There you go. As to the rest of your attempts to lowball? He met them in mental combat, and was winning. I have proven that he possesses telepathy. Discussion ended? Discussion ended.
He didn't met them in combat and Sue was smacking him around. But if someone like Cable is helping him to get in my mind, sure he can get burned and absorbed in Ronan's hammer like Magus did.


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Iíll say. You sure as hell havenít been doing anything elseÖ
Meaningless drivel.


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Nah, they generally say something to the effect of ďJíonn could take him with one hand behind his back.Ē Now, as relevant as that may be to our match, I feel compelled to make sure that you know that we ARENíT actually Jíonn and Superman, ok Abhi? Theyíre fictional characters, and as real as that cherry-curled, sexually-repressed boy-scout may feel to you, thatís all heíll ever be.
God, itís like telling a child Santa isnít real.
Haha, got your jimmies rustled, eh?

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You have done nothing of the sort. You never had the chance to, as your shield was torn through seconds into the match, and I wasnít standing idle. Also, scans of this clone defeating the real surfer? Iím sure there are circumstances you are neglecting to admit. Not that it matters, as once again-
You want the clone defeating surfer?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/album...clone_vs_surfer

There you go. And yes, your speed is useless here.

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-Ronan needs time to prepare, and his opponent to be standing still. No time to prepare here Abhi. All youíve got is a fist in your face.
Nope. He needs just his hammer to beat you after blocking all your powers and freezing you. Not to mention straight up beating the shit out of you like Ronan did with Genis.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...8271-1.png.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...8274-2.png.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...8277-3.png.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...8278-4.png.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...8279-5.png.html

Genis alone is more powerful than your entire amalgam.

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What? In my first post alone, Apoc was shown perfectly content in the vacuum of space on TWO separate occasions.
Being in space doesn't mean much. It just shows Apocalypse can hold his breath while he still has his powers. Here he doesn't.

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Iím literally laughing at this tactic, as is Apocalypse. Your vague scan of Apocalypse slowly dying from poisoningÖsomewhereÖ doesnít prove shit. Nor am I frozen, as you never got the chance. Yet another failure Abhi laughing out loud
Its not dying from Poison. He just got teleported into space and was dying because of it. Its from X men v2 186 and anybdoy can verify this. Save you of course as you don't know shit about Apocalypse.



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Yeah, not gonna waste much time here. Abhi is trying a classic Strawman.
I am not claiming that Jade didnít create the shield. What I am stating, as is definitively shown in these two scans-
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_7.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_8.jpg.html
Is that the reason it cannot be harmed is the multiversal frequency on which it exists. It has nothing to do with Jadeís personal power.
WTF? Jade created the shield, its in her power to control the frequency. Its like saying Magneto's shield is not of his own. And if she can attune it to multiversal frequency in coics, my amalgam can do it here.
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Itís there in black and white, and cannot be debated. So, once again, all Abhi has is a shield of feat-less power, that is completely vulnerable to my assault. Case closed.
Haha, this is like the most pathetic argument I've ever seen for dismissing a feat. Jade created a shield which was attuned to multiversal frequency and that was the whole reason she created it. But somehow I can't despite the fact that I've all the experience and powers she has and somehow its featless.

Seriously, if you can't breach my shield, just admit it. I will smash your head gently.
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You have to wonder though, if Jadeís shields are SO powerful, why does Abhi only present the one scan? Surely there must be some other kind of proof? Right? Right?
I posted all the scans of the shield. I posted ten scans for ****'s sake.


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Proof that you can create a shield on a personal level? You have provided none. All youíve shown is that you take forever to raise a useless shield, providing me ample time to beat you down.
Like this?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682990/26.jpg.html

That's omega man, all the dark energy in the multiverse combined and someone who has destroyed entire planets.

But I like this logic, Jade can create city wide shield and keep it for three days but can't make a personal shield. Martian logic FTW.



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No one said it, but it sure looks that wayÖ
Like the blast even Jesse quick wasn't able to avoid?

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Prove it. And her doing it afterwards in no way shows that she could construct the shield WHILE being attacked.
Well, too bad. I just showed her creating a shield AFTER that. While stalemating Omega Man in energy blasts.

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My sentiments exactly.
That's why you have no arguments at this point left? That easy for ya?




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I donít know whatís more tedious, your inability to form a coherent argument, or your unoriginality. I mean, the best ownage in that issue is Luthor blasting Jíonn for always being late to meetings, for Christ sake.
Uh, sure.
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As to the rest, once again in summary:


That's your summary. You have nothing here. I've all the options here. My shields are unbreakable, I laugh at your puny speed here, I block all the powers you have, I freeze you solid, I'm tough enough to take any and all attack you can throw at me.

Basically, you're nothing at this point.


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Well, Abhiís making this easy at least. Those last posts were basically one big meltdown, so I wonít need to put much into the response.

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Holy! Not a single relevant argument or scan? Just because he has control over his molecular structure or morph his metallic skin into bullets or morphing into energy cannon doesn't mean he can turn it into wood.


I find this hilarious. Itís like heís trying to make his own denial sound farcical.

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Not that it matters in anyway. I can simply transmute your skin and render it useless. Just like Doctor Dredd who had turned his skin into such sharpness that it cut time and space and even cut surfer. Ronan simply transmuted and turned his powers off.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...p7pbhI.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...0I_l_k.jpg.html



Yawn. More scans of Rodyn taking down someone standing still, with the benefit of a team at his side. Once again, Iím not standing still, nor do you have back-up. Seriously Abhi, I donít know what youíre trying to do here. You keep throwing up strategies, yet you canít seem to make anything stick. I mean Christ, with all the things youíre trying to do, how do you expect to actually pull any off?
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So I'm not even weakened by wood anymore and you just get depowered by transmutation.

Youíre not, and I havenít been. Youíre assuming your control would exceed my own. Baseless speculation, not to mention meaningless. Once again, you wonít have the chance.

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You're flailing like usual without even knowing what you're arguing. Alan when he absorbed the dark aspect of the starheart had no weakness to wood anymore.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...P00034.jpg.html

Jade even says her powers have changed after absorbing the powers of starheart's dark aspect. I will like to see a scan of Jade's shields failing to a wooden object.

The weakness is out since she absorbed the power of Starheart. Simple as that.


Note, he has provided nothing concrete to show that jadeís powers have changed to be resistant to wood. Nothing at all. I showed the Starheart failing against wood, and that is all which matters.
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Bullet time? Here Jade reacts even faster than Jesse Quick and absorbs the energy blasts of Omega Man even after it was fired.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682367/013.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682368/014.jpg.html

I laugh at your puny speed.


laughing out loud

Reacts faster? She intercepted an energy blast, yes. At no point does she Ďreact fasterí than Jessie. Thatís not a speed feat. Thatís barely a reflexes feat. She intercepted a blast aimed at someone else. If thatís your trump card, youíre failing harder than usual.

Sorry, I take that back. Youíre pretty consistent.

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Haha, this is just "I don't like your scan." Cool beans bro. I know you can't counter any of my scans, so repeatedly ignoring all my scans



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Wait, what? How is stretching arms enhancing speed again? And your insults get even more pathetic if that was even possible.

Itís a display of reflexes. An unnecessary one, considering how desperately outclassed you are, but still.
And for pathetic insults, they do seem to have done the job. Seriously, did you read your posts before you put them up? Theyíre practically a testament to butthurt.
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Ah, "Only my scans are relevant" tactic again. And watcher wasn't trying to hide from Apoc there. Total useless scan there.


No actual argument here. Hell, no actual argument in most of these posts. Just an angry little boy throwing a tantrum.

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Those aren't punches. Those are her stars which Donna can block in straight up fight. Again total useless scan.

The attack put Donna on her arse. So, considering youíre less durable and far slower, Iíd say itís highly relevant.
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You conceded that you don't know shit about either characters. And Apoc ran away as soon as armor was ruptured while he was trying to kill Thor before. Its not applicable at all showing how celestial armor can enhance all abilities of who wears it like Hulk.

Hardly, though by all means, read it as you will. Judging by the scans youíve posted, you clearly see the world differently to the rest of us from the get-goÖ
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You just keep saying that without giving a single proof or reasoning.

And Mercy wasn't helping Hyde. She was just talking to Hulk in his head. For ****'s sake, we see Hulk attacking Hyde straight up.

Having someone **** with your head isnít hindering? Now Abhi, we know that you donít often use your wits, but even you have to see how it could affect the course of a battle.

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Cheapshotting? He straight up killed a being who was chumping Gladiator, Annihilus and Super Skrull in one hit. While you are bragging about beating Donna ****ing Troy via cheapshot. Hypocrisy, thy name is Martian Mind. And fear not, I will post Ronan straight up beating the shit out of Genis Vell as well.


And yet, you provide not a scan of this chumping. Only the sneaky donkey-punch. My scans serve the purpose of displaying speed. Your enemy being surprised does not make you slower. A shot to the back of the head, however, is heavily benefited by the target being unaware. Itís a rule of life, and comics. You have shown nothing.

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Aww, did I hurt your feelings?

Not in the slightest. You havenít hurt anything all match.

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Just like Living Lightning? Eh? And killing beings that are chumping Gladiator automatically prove I'm stronger than your entire amalgam.

Laughably incorrect. Especially when one half of my amalgam is capable of chumping Ikaris, while the other has *****-slapped Wonder Women and Supermen from around the multiverse.

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And no, you haven't posted a single scan for Apocalypse's durability. Not that it matters. I can oneshot even Silver Surfer in this position.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...l06-25.jpg.html

And tank full force attacks from Surfer and Genis even after Surfer cheapshots him from behind.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...l06-31.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...l06-32.jpg.html

Your attacks can't even compare to that. Not to mention I've auto shields for Ronan which can dismiss your attacks casually.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...arrel1.jpg.html


Oh, wow, a cheap-shot an unsuspecting foe. HowÖ typical. See how he lies and misleads? You wonít be behind me Abhi. Not to mention, Iím far more durable than Surfer. As to the blasts, all youíve shown is that Ronan is a little *****. No running from me son, and Iím not stopping at one blast. Iím beating your skull into paste.
As to the shield, in no way does that show it to be an auto-shield. He has a shield, yes, but you have not proven it to be autonomous, nor even remotely capable of standing up to my power.
I thought you might have provided something of worth here. Alas.


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Beast, Iceman, Angel and Colossus? And he was getting owned by Colossus untill he used one of his machines to blow them up in the last scan. Pathetic as always.


No argument, so you try a lowball?

Well, I guess that has been the general tone of your replies.
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That's not telepathy. Ozymandias is connected to Apoc by his machines. As if reading minds is enough to overwhelm somebody who can burn them totally if they even touch her mind like Jade.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23683057/26-27.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23683059/28.jpg.html


Ronan can absorb all the psychic energy of Magus which was controlling entire planet and contain it.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682601/005.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682604/009.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682606/010.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682609/015.jpg.html



laughing out loud

This is gold. There are no machines attached to Ozymandias. That is clear to see. You just canít admit to being wrong.

As to your scans, all youíve done is show a being who feeds on misery being overwhelmed by the misery of the Starheart. In no way is that relevant to a mind-rape. Another failure.
As to the Ronan feat? They have CLEARLY had time to prepare, it is CLEARLY a team effort, and it CLEARLY demands all of Ronanís attention. In no way would it protect you, and in no way does it help you.
Honestly, itís as though you think the judges wonít read your scans.




You want the clone defeating surfer?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/album...clone_vs_surfer

There you go. And yes, your speed is useless here.
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Ah, cool. So, the fake Surfer actually had some brass. Itís a shame that Ronan wonít have the time to assess my power like he did the Skrullís. What with, you know, the high speed combat going on from the matchís very onset. Not sure how youíve concluded my speed is useless though..

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Nope. He needs just his hammer to beat you after blocking all your powers and freezing you. Not to mention straight up beating the shit out of you like Ronan did with Genis.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...8271-1.png.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...8274-2.png.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...8277-3.png.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...8278-4.png.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...8279-5.png.html

Genis alone is more powerful than your entire amalgam.


At that stage? No he wasnít. Especially if Ronan could take him. A high-showing doesnít negate all the rest, or nullify my advantages. Iíll be hitting you faster and harder than anything Ronan experienced in those scans. Which Iím also guessing are rather incomplete, since you didnít deign to show us the aftermath.
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Being in space doesn't mean much. It just shows Apocalypse can hold his breath while he still has his powers. Here he doesn't.

Right. Youíve been proven wrong, yet again, and are now off-balance. I still have my powers, and you have nothing more than another failed tactic. Yawn.

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WTF? Jade created the shield, its in her power to control the frequency. Its like saying Magneto's shield is not of his own. And if she can attune it to multiversal frequency in coics, my amalgam can do it here.
Haha, this is like the most pathetic argument I've ever seen for dismissing a feat. Jade created a shield which was attuned to multiversal frequency and that was the whole reason she created it. But somehow I can't despite the fact that I've all the experience and powers she has and somehow its featless.


At this point, I canít tell if youíre being intentionally dense, or if itís genuine. The scans state that the shield is not all Jade. That It is comprised of several energies, and that the reason it cannot be harmed is the multiversal frequency. Jade has nothing to do with that. She doesnít control that. Your shield is a failure.
Either way, this point is dead. The judges have the scans, and they know how to read. Theyíll see through your lies.
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I posted all the scans of the shield. I posted ten scans for ****'s sake.

Youíve only posted scans of one instance of her shield-making abilities, an irrelevant one at that. You havenít backed her abilities up in any way beyond that.

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Like this?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682990/26.jpg.html

That's omega man, all the dark energy in the multiverse combined and someone who has destroyed entire planets.

But I like this logic, Jade can create city wide shield and keep it for three days but can't make a personal shield. Martian logic FTW.

YES!
Finally some substance! That is what we need! Now, post the next scan, where we see how well her almighty shields held up to the blast! Go on, do it!
I dare you.



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Well, too bad. I just showed her creating a shield AFTER that. While stalemating Omega Man in energy blasts.

Well, youíve already said that the first thing youíll be doing is throwing up a shieldÖwhich my wooden fists will cut through like warm butter, if my strength alone wasnít already enough.

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That's your summary. You have nothing here. I've all the options here. My shields are unbreakable, I laugh at your puny speed here, I block all the powers you have, I freeze you solid, I'm tough enough to take any and all attack you can throw at me.


Heh.
You have exhausted your options. None of them are relevant, are anywhere near enough. Youíve spammed strategy after strategy, failing to defend every point as you succumb to my simple yet effective style. Your shields are useless, and you are physically outclassed to the point of hilarity. I will not be giving you breathing room, nor do you have any allies to distract.

Basically son, youíre ****ed.


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abhilegend
Prince of All Saiyans

Gender: Male
Location: Always second place

Coup de grace

Oh look, another post from Martian which has nothing of value. If all you could do is ***** and moan at everything I posted and deny everything like it matters, why post 5 posts? You could've done it in one post and we'd have closed the match at that point.

Anyway, I've countered everything you've just rehashed. Its time to wrap this up.

Defenses: My shields are totally unbreachable by anything you can do and its not even tiring for me.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_1.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_2.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_3.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_4.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_5.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_6.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_7.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_8.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...elds_9.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...lds_10.jpg.html

I'm invisible.

http://i.imgur.com/aQsn4PC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CesI6xa.jpg

I have autoshields for extra defenses.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...arrel1.jpg.html

Not to mention I'm very durable to begin with, capable of taking cheapshots even from Silver Surfer and combined attacks from Surfer and Genis and not even being harmed.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...l06-31.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...l06-31.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...l06-32.jpg.html

Martian can't even post one proof to that my shields are vulnerable to wood.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...P00034.jpg.html

Neither can he post one scan that shows Apocalypse can turn his skin into wood. I can just transmute him casually anyway. So that's out.

Next for telepathy, Martian couldn't post one scan of Apocalypse using offensive telepathy on his own. He posted a scan of Apocalypse reading Ozymandias' mind where he was attached with him via machines. Not that I can be attacked telepathicaly through my shield but even if he somehow he can even read my mind, I will just absorb his psychic energy like Ronan did to Magus, a far more powerful telepath.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682601/005.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682604/009.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682606/010.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682609/015.jpg.html


Or fry his mind.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23683057/26-27.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23683059/28.jpg.html

So nothing he can do can even touch me.

Speed.

I can react and totally own Living Lightning, someone who was actually zipping at lightning speed.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23631072/10.jpg.html

I can own Johnny Quick, an actual speedster in a fight.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23631080/032.jpg.html

I can even react faster than Jesse Quick and absorb an energy attack after it was fired.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682367/013.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23682368/014.jpg.html

Suffice to say, i'm far faster than slowpoke Apocrunner ever will be with stacked reflexes of Ronan and Jade. Apocrunner's only speed feat is cheapshotting Donna Troy who has zero speed feats of her own and tripping a featless Flash. Lulzworthy actually.

Now for offense, first I will raise a temprature of absolute zero.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...ronan2.jpg.html

Then create a vacuum which has owned both Forerunner and Apocalypse before.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...troom5.jpg.html

I will block and reverse all his powers back on him just like Black Bolt and Living Lightning.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23631072/10.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23631073/11.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...ronan4.jpg.html

No counter for that. At all.

And finally a temporal displacement bubble around Apocrunner to ensure that all his energies get burned out.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...troom4.jpg.html

No counter for that too.

I will transmute him and take away his powers, just like I did to Super Skrull with the powers of Doctor Dredd, someone with total molecular control of his body.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...p7pbhI.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...0I_l_k.jpg.html

I can hit harder than anything powerless Apocrunner can take, killing Black Dwarf in one hit.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...rr2fe9.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...vii45d.jpg.html

I can fire energy blasts powerful enough to KO Surfer in one blast. It was from behind, but here you can't see me either.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...l06-25.jpg.html

Even kill a silver surfer clone in three blasts who actually defeated real surfer.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...raldd5.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...mpers3.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...mpers4.jpg.html

And beat the shit out of Genis Vell in a few attacks.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...8271-1.png.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...8274-2.png.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...8277-3.png.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...8278-4.png.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/236...8279-5.png.html

So, I'm faster, stronger, more durable, has shields that can't be breached, has attacks that will freeze you, block your powers, transmute you and make you powerless, reverse your powers, beat the shit out of you with my giant hammer or just fry you with energy blasts.

You are nothing against me Brucey-lite, you had lost even before this match began. I wanted to say this was a good match.

But this isn't a good match. And you're a worthless debater.

That's all. The match is all yours Judges.


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Old Post Aug 1st, 2015 05:12 AM
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"Id"
The Man of Tomorrow

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Diablo Corps

I am doing my best to imagine how things will go down, going by what I read. How well you argue a point will either add or take away from how I see the fight happening.

Kapish! Good.

Martian_mind vs abhilegend
Martian Mind came up with a combo in Ouroboros, that earns him a character that combines speed, power, and durability with the added touch of celestial tech, and some shape shifting. Sweet.
And his strat is to morph partially into wood, and speed blitz RonJade for some good old ground and pound.

- Things I donít like.
I was left uncertain if Apocalypse can morph into another element. I am not sure if morphing his appearance to that of a human and adding cloths on his back would be enough to prove the fact. But that point was never brought up. Historically he has only shown the ability to morph his body, and create blasters, but not the compete change of organic composition.
The use of some scans where he is empowered, like the 12th. Or his fight with Black Bolt, and the X-Men.

abhilegend
Abhi created what I call the RonJade. And the RonJade may not be a physically fast or powerful as Ouroboros, but it is definitely more versatile. A combination of energy, and matter manipulation. Nice.
Strategy wise, you raise them shields up. Go invisible. Use some absolute zero to freeze Oruoboros in its tracks. Burn out his powers, so you can go right in for the kill.

- Things I donít like.
Direct Matter manipulation is not allowed in this tournament.
Temporal displacement bubble is not allowed as it is a form of time manipulation. No form of time manipulation is allowed in this tournament.
These attacks are thrown out of the window.

Ouroboros vs RonJade
When the match starts RonJade will have its shields up, Ouro will charges forward. RonJade is about to do a bit of multitasking in the moments leading in with Ouro going Ronda Rousey on him.

But the shields are up for RonJade. Right? I am convinced that Jade has some potent Shields, but I am Not convinced they will be as strong as Abhi makes them out to be. The reason for it, is because it took Jade her full power, and focus to raise that kind of Shield. She didnít do anything else but pour in every effort into those shields. Here RonJade attempts to do several things, including going on the offensive. Obviously the shields will not be as strong as the one seen in those scans.

A stasis field is also up, so attacks and physical force will be reflected right? Well Martian called out on the fact that the stasis field is a product of the environment and not his own power. Abhi did not convince me that it is an option for him to use.

Although I was not convinced that RonJade is as fast as Ouro. He was fast enough to intercept Genis, in the middle of a high speed blitz. In this case Ouro is charging strait at him, Ouro may close the gap and land some hits on RonJay. But his shields would hold up, and allow him to counter with his Absolute Zero attack.

I do not see how Ouro could counter. He could recover yes, but not counter or defend. Absolute Zero would be enough to slow him down, for Abhi to land some clean hits, and take him out.

Winner Abhi.


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Old Post Aug 15th, 2015 02:06 PM
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"Id"
The Man of Tomorrow

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Diablo Corps

SquallX

I gaved it to ahbi mostly because of Jade.

Her shield was able to withstand the pounding from the JL/JLA combine, not even the Flash was able to phase through.

Not only that, Superman himself noted that Jade wasn't even aware of the power she posses.

I honetly don't see the opposition winning against that shield.


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"Id"
The Man of Tomorrow

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Diablo Corps

Winner Abhi


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Old Post Aug 15th, 2015 02:09 PM
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Martian_mind
telepathy+debates+=Pwned

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Location: Australia

Well, it was fun! Congratulations to Abhi, and to the rest of the winners. Enjoy the next round guys, it's going to be crazy.


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