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redpill
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Depa Billlaba form 3 or Form 7?

in Rebels the Inquisitor said that Depa Billaba used form 3 for close quarters.


are the 7 lightforms exactly the same as before?

what happened to her vaapad from mace windu? or is form 7 no longer vaapad?


is obi wan still form 3? depa and obi wan both use defensive form?
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She uses Soresu in Canon and Vaapad in Legends.


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She uses Soresu in Canon and Vaapad in Legends.

any idea why they changed it? is mace still vaapad in canon or is he now form 3?

is soresu still the same? i.e defensive?
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any idea why they changed it?

Vaapad is hard to describe in a kid's TV show.

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is mace still vaapad in canon or is he now form 3?

It's pretty obvious that he's skilled in Soresu given he must have trained Depa in the style.

I still believe he's a master of Vaapad given it's in the ROTS novel (which is said to be canon).

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is soresu still the same? i.e defensive?

Yes.


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I hope Luminara is confirmed to be a Soresu user, since her style when dueling Ventress is clearly very Soresu-esque.


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is mace windu still depabillaba master?
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Yes.


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is mace still vaapad? or is he now form 3 master
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He's probably a master of both forms.


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has disney released a canon lightsaber combat form book source reference?
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Depends, ROTS is Canon, and Vaapad is described there, as is Depa's mastery of the blade. So she, like mace, could probably be a master of both, but we won't know for sure until more material is released.


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so matthew stowers book is canon? i thought it eu since it has many details not in the movie. mace and sidious in the book discuss religious freedom which is not in the movie
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so matthew stowers book is canon? i thought it eu since it has many details not in the movie. mace and sidious in the book discuss religious freedom which is not in the movie


Only "what aligns with the movies" is canon. Not sure about everything else.


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Only "what aligns with the movies" is canon. Not sure about everything else.


movies dont discuss vaapad

in the book windu confronts palpatine and says hes a sith lord

sidious says the republic grantees religious freedom

thats not in the movie

sidious invites sasse tinn to read his mind. not in movie.
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movies dont discuss vaapad

in the book windu confronts palpatine and says hes a sith lord

sidious says the republic grantees religious freedom

thats not in the movie

sidious invites sasse tinn to read his mind. not in movie.


During the fight, Mace is stated to be using Vaapad. The fight is in the movie.

Anything else?


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Mace definitely mastered Vaapad, but it's possible he mastered Soresu as well.
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I think calling Mace a Soresu master is kind of jumping the gun. That's like saying Obi-Wan is a Djem So master because he trained Anakin.

Anyway I believe Ultimate SW confirms Mace's style skirts the Dark Side. So Vapaad is still canon. Which is a good thing. Because they should make Mace competing with Sidious believable for someone whose normally on par with Dooku.
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Is Star Wars: The Clone Wars Magazine a canon source? It's basing on TCW, so it might be possible. And Mace is stated there as "peerless warrior of the Vaapad lightsaber technique".
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Don't think so. Especially if it came before the Disney dump.

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During the fight, Mace is stated to be using Vaapad. The fight is in the movie.

Anything else?


The novelizations aren't canon. I've shown the tweet before. It's similar to how it was before. But this time the "C-Canon" elements are non-canon. So Vaapad is gone, at least for now.
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is mace still vaapad? or is he now form 3 master


A Vaapad master must also master the VII basic forms. So yes Mace is also a Form 3 Master. It is also possible Depa still knows how to use Form VII, but who knows at this point.


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