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Alex Mercer vs Raiden (Metal Gear)

Both at full power.

Who wins?

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Wow....Raiden ftw. Better reaction time, better agility, he has strength feats out the wazoo. Can deflect bullets with sword, can jump to insane heights. also has a knowledge of basically any weapon, has been killing people since he was a child. I don't see how mercer is going to cope with a sword that can cut through anything and a guy that could use better than most anyone.

The only problem is mercers's ability to not be killed. Even a nuke couldn't do it. If there are no other living things within reach of Mercer then Raiden takes it hands down. If Mercer can keep coming back to life, then eventually Raiden will tire out and lose.


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Raiden stomps. Raiden is faster, stronger and has a healing factor. Also he can slice Mercer into sushi or something with his blade


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Raiden stomps. Raiden is faster, stronger and has a healing factor. Also he can slice Mercer into sushi or something with his blade
When did Raiden ever have a healing factor?

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When did Raiden ever have a healing factor?

Hmm... what about when a 5-15 minutes? He can regenerate after taken some damage(i think)

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mercer at his full power is city eliminator. what the best DC raiden have ?

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Raiden.


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Raiden probably can't kill Mercer, though he horrendously outclasses him physically


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Raiden probably can't kill Mercer, though he horrendously outclasses him physically

Well, Raiden would just slice Mercer into pieces with his H/F Blade

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Alex Mercer wins......full power?

1. Alex is a living Virus he has no organs or nerves or anything relating he has literal INFINITE STAMINA he doesn't even need to sleep,eat, and or drink.

2. Alex MOST greatest defense is his armor which in Prototype 1 has NEVER been broken it does reduce ALL given attacks but slows his movement but since Prototype 2 the Agile Armor is his armor which it no longer restrict his free running.

3. Alex while I'm playing had scaled Manhattan island UNDER 2 Minutes.

4. Alex Whipfist has infinite range this is shown In-game.

5. Alex cant take any fall damage due to him having no bones/organs so he would be totally untouched.

6. Reaction time? Alex HAS reacted to Machine gun fire and life tank/helicopter missiles and machine gun ammo he had also taken then "Face" on.

7. Strength.....alex known limit was shown when he throw a 10 ton tank with a single hand.

8. Alex has thermal vision so if Raiden tries any smoke techniques it wont work.

9. Alex with the Medusa stare can 1 shot anything which was shown in-game when he can turn a symbol Human into goo and cause Super soldiers/brawlers to go into instant consumption form.

10. He can control THE infected and can easily kill a human with a single HIT and where infected has MORE increased durability than a human.

11. Alex Mercer has survived a nuke before which should have turned him to ASH if I may mention and he cane back by a simple crow a small animal.

12. Alex has a Genius level or Super Genius level intellect he had perfected/altered/evolved a virus that not even the top scientists at Gentek could have done he also has SHORT military training which WAS demanded so he isn't lacking in combat as he gained intelligence with Assault Rifles,Machine Guns,Grenade Launchers,Rocket launchers and has vehicle control aka Tanks/Helicopters.

13. Alex can also order a airstrike on a target as well.

14. Alex disguises can fool anyone since he takes on FULL DNA/Physical appearance including Voice and memory.

15. Alex can slowly develop over his weaknesses aka Bloodtox when overtime he was immune to something that can kill him.

16. Muscle Mass is a INSTANT KILL for human level beings when equipped just by shockwaves can cause the small area to be affect causing humans to turn into blood/bones.

17. Area attacks is what makes Alex a deadly being he had MULTIPLE area attacks both as a Defensive/Offensive techniques he was shown capable of destroying MULTIPLE tanks with a single devastator which are armored when going through the game.

18. Alex posses a healing/regeneration power which automatically heals him once he takes any amount of damage but when he takes DEEP attacks I would take him a few moments (A minute or so) to heal back up.

19. Alex at a near death state CAN have his devastator back ALONG with a increase in DAMAGE of it but depends on the devastator.

20. Summoning just like James Heller it goes with Alex as well since he can summon exploding vultures/brawlers or when a Goliath to his aid making him a very dangerous fighter.

Strength=Raiden
Speed=Alex
Durability=Alex
Intelligence=Alex
Striking Speed=Raiden
Striking Strength=Both (Alex with Muscle Mass gains additional strength boosts)
Stamina=Alex
Powers/Abilities=Alex


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Originally posted by BeyonderGod
[B]Alex Mercer wins......full power?


Hoo boy this'll be fun

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1. Alex is a living Virus he has no organs or nerves or anything relating he has literal INFINITE STAMINA he doesn't even need to sleep,eat, and or drink.


And Raiden's a cyborg, whoopdee doo

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2. Alex MOST greatest defense is his armor which in Prototype 1 has NEVER been broken it does reduce ALL given attacks but slows his movement but since Prototype 2 the Agile Armor is his armor which it no longer restrict his free running.


Never been broken by who? Some human schmucks?

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3. Alex while I'm playing had scaled Manhattan island UNDER 2 Minutes.


Not even supersonic, or anywhere close to it

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4. Alex Whipfist has infinite range this is shown In-game.


Feats or GTFO

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5. Alex cant take any fall damage due to him having no bones/organs so he would be totally untouched.


Fall damage ain't shit to unaugmented humans in MGS, much less Raiden

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6. Reaction time? Alex HAS reacted to Machine gun fire and life tank/helicopter missiles and machine gun ammo he had also taken then "Face" on.


When?

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7. Strength.....alex known limit was shown when he throw a 10 ton tank with a single hand.


10 tons is piss to Grey Fox, who's pretty much a VR T Class compared to the NR Class engine that is Raiden

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8. Alex has thermal vision so if Raiden tries any smoke techniques it wont work.


>implies Raiden will need smoke techniques

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9. Alex with the Medusa stare can 1 shot anything which was shown in-game when he can turn a symbol Human into goo and cause Super soldiers/brawlers to go into instant consumption form.


Feats or GTFO

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10. He can control THE infected and can easily kill a human with a single HIT and where infected has MORE increased durability than a human.


Oh noes he can kill a person why did nobody tell me?!?!?!?!

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11. Alex Mercer has survived a nuke before which should have turned him to ASH if I may mention and he cane back by a simple crow a small animal.


Survived being very far away from the epiccenter, which pretty much pasted him

vs Raiden who survived Armstrong's attack head on that blew Excelsus the **** up, which is prolly about 500 tons of TNT or so

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12. Alex has a Genius level or Super Genius level intellect he had perfected/altered/evolved a virus that not even the top scientists at Gentek could have done he also has SHORT military training which WAS demanded so he isn't lacking in combat as he gained intelligence with Assault Rifles,Machine Guns,Grenade Launchers,Rocket launchers and has vehicle control aka Tanks/Helicopters.


And this stops him from getting rekt by a massively superior opponent how?

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13. Alex can also order a airstrike on a target as well.


So?

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14. Alex disguises can fool anyone since he takes on FULL DNA/Physical appearance including Voice and memory.


Nobody cares

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15. Alex can slowly develop over his weaknesses aka Bloodtox when overtime he was immune to something that can kill him.


No limit fallacy

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16. Muscle Mass is a INSTANT KILL for human level beings when equipped just by shockwaves can cause the small area to be affect causing humans to turn into blood/bones.


Good thing Raiden ain't no human level being eh?

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17. Area attacks is what makes Alex a deadly being he had MULTIPLE area attacks both as a Defensive/Offensive techniques he was shown capable of destroying MULTIPLE tanks with a single devastator which are armored when going through the game.


Ain't shit to Raiden for reasons already mentioned

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18. Alex posses a healing/regeneration power which automatically heals him once he takes any amount of damage but when he takes DEEP attacks I would take him a few moments (A minute or so) to heal back up.


As long as he has enough biomass

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19. Alex at a near death state CAN have his devastator back ALONG with a increase in DAMAGE of it but depends on the devastator.

20. Summoning just like James Heller it goes with Alex as well since he can summon exploding vultures/brawlers or when a Goliath to his aid making him a very dangerous fighter.


So... nothing worth of note

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Striking Strength=Both (Alex with Muscle Mass gains additional strength boosts)


When you have one feat that even matches Gray Fox's stopping REX from stomping Snake feat, let me know


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Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Alex Mercer wins......full power?

1. Alex is a living Virus he has no organs or nerves or anything relating he has literal INFINITE STAMINA he doesn't even need to sleep,eat, and or drink.

2. Alex MOST greatest defense is his armor which in Prototype 1 has NEVER been broken it does reduce ALL given attacks but slows his movement but since Prototype 2 the Agile Armor is his armor which it no longer restrict his free running.

3. Alex while I'm playing had scaled Manhattan island UNDER 2 Minutes.

4. Alex Whipfist has infinite range this is shown In-game.

5. Alex cant take any fall damage due to him having no bones/organs so he would be totally untouched.

6. Reaction time? Alex HAS reacted to Machine gun fire and life tank/helicopter missiles and machine gun ammo he had also taken then "Face" on.

7. Strength.....alex known limit was shown when he throw a 10 ton tank with a single hand.

8. Alex has thermal vision so if Raiden tries any smoke techniques it wont work.

9. Alex with the Medusa stare can 1 shot anything which was shown in-game when he can turn a symbol Human into goo and cause Super soldiers/brawlers to go into instant consumption form.

10. He can control THE infected and can easily kill a human with a single HIT and where infected has MORE increased durability than a human.

11. Alex Mercer has survived a nuke before which should have turned him to ASH if I may mention and he cane back by a simple crow a small animal.

12. Alex has a Genius level or Super Genius level intellect he had perfected/altered/evolved a virus that not even the top scientists at Gentek could have done he also has SHORT military training which WAS demanded so he isn't lacking in combat as he gained intelligence with Assault Rifles,Machine Guns,Grenade Launchers,Rocket launchers and has vehicle control aka Tanks/Helicopters.

13. Alex can also order a airstrike on a target as well.

14. Alex disguises can fool anyone since he takes on FULL DNA/Physical appearance including Voice and memory.

15. Alex can slowly develop over his weaknesses aka Bloodtox when overtime he was immune to something that can kill him.

16. Muscle Mass is a INSTANT KILL for human level beings when equipped just by shockwaves can cause the small area to be affect causing humans to turn into blood/bones.

17. Area attacks is what makes Alex a deadly being he had MULTIPLE area attacks both as a Defensive/Offensive techniques he was shown capable of destroying MULTIPLE tanks with a single devastator which are armored when going through the game.

18. Alex posses a healing/regeneration power which automatically heals him once he takes any amount of damage but when he takes DEEP attacks I would take him a few moments (A minute or so) to heal back up.

19. Alex at a near death state CAN have his devastator back ALONG with a increase in DAMAGE of it but depends on the devastator.

20. Summoning just like James Heller it goes with Alex as well since he can summon exploding vultures/brawlers or when a Goliath to his aid making him a very dangerous fighter.

Strength=Raiden
Speed=Alex
Durability=Alex
Intelligence=Alex
Striking Speed=Raiden
Striking Strength=Both (Alex with Muscle Mass gains additional strength boosts)
Stamina=Alex
Powers/Abilities=Alex

Wrong Wrong. Raiden wins. Get back playing Metal Gear Rising Revengeance and you will see that Raiden can cut anything into pieces and he took a stab from Monsoon's Blade and just get hurt a little bit.


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Seriously, as I said, even Gray Fox could trash anything in Prototype, and comparing him to Raiden is like comparing a VR T Class diesel engine to an NR Class diesel engine


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Hoo boy this'll be fun



And Raiden's a cyborg, whoopdee doo



Never been broken by who? Some human schmucks?



Not even supersonic, or anywhere close to it



Feats or GTFO



Fall damage ain't shit to unaugmented humans in MGS, much less Raiden



When?



10 tons is piss to Grey Fox, who's pretty much a VR T Class compared to the NR Class engine that is Raiden



>implies Raiden will need smoke techniques



Feats or GTFO



Oh noes he can kill a person why did nobody tell me?!?!?!?!



Survived being very far away from the epiccenter, which pretty much pasted him

vs Raiden who survived Armstrong's attack head on that blew Excelsus the **** up, which is prolly about 500 tons of TNT or so



And this stops him from getting rekt by a massively superior opponent how?



So?



Nobody cares



No limit fallacy



Good thing Raiden ain't no human level being eh?



Ain't shit to Raiden for reasons already mentioned



As long as he has enough biomass



So... nothing worth of note



When you have one feat that even matches Gray Fox's stopping REX from stomping Snake feat, let me know
Dude, don't give him the time of day, all he doez is troll.

He has been trying to preach to us since he joined KMC that the best DBZ has done is island-bust, the guy is a ****ing moron.


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The only things that ever threatened Mercer's existence was another evolved consuming him, a virus made to poison his kind and the atom bomb. As powerful as Raiden is, even he's going to be frustrated trying to kill something that can regenerate from a puddle. As time passes during the battle, Alex could actually win but not for the reasons Beyonder made. Oh god no.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=id...sqnqQ&gl=ID the medusa thing is james heller not alex mercer

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Even if it was, Medusa's Wrath is a downloadable game cheat so it's not even a canon ability.


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Originally posted by StealthRanger
Hoo boy this'll be fun



And Raiden's a cyborg, whoopdee doo



Never been broken by who? Some human schmucks?



Not even supersonic, or anywhere close to it



Feats or GTFO



Fall damage ain't shit to unaugmented humans in MGS, much less Raiden



When?



10 tons is piss to Grey Fox, who's pretty much a VR T Class compared to the NR Class engine that is Raiden



>implies Raiden will need smoke techniques



Feats or GTFO



Oh noes he can kill a person why did nobody tell me?!?!?!?!



Survived being very far away from the epiccenter, which pretty much pasted him

vs Raiden who survived Armstrong's attack head on that blew Excelsus the **** up, which is prolly about 500 tons of TNT or so



And this stops him from getting rekt by a massively superior opponent how?



So?



Nobody cares



No limit fallacy



Good thing Raiden ain't no human level being eh?



Ain't shit to Raiden for reasons already mentioned



As long as he has enough biomass



So... nothing worth of note



When you have one feat that even matches Gray Fox's stopping REX from stomping Snake feat, let me know

Knowing Stealth he hasn't played Prototype 1/2 lol fanboys I swear he salty because I brought facts how usual of a Factpiletard.


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The only things that ever threatened Mercer's existence was another evolved consuming him, a virus made to poison his kind and the atom bomb. As powerful as Raiden is, even he's going to be frustrated trying to kill something that can regenerate from a puddle. As time passes during the battle, Alex could actually win but not for the reasons Beyonder made. Oh god no.

The facts I placed places him above Raiden.....like I said.

Infinite Stamina>Superhuman Stamina
Nuke Durability>Raiden Durability
Strength Wise THEY both have it.
Speed? What's raiden TOP speed I will wait. smile

Alex regeneration,his no fall damage, his multiple powers/skills he would win this Mid-High Diff if you dont allow ARMOR mercer but since Alex ARMOR is at play this is Mid Diff.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U9D4KmIdl2U
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Alex tanking Medusas stare.


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Dude, don't give him the time of day, all he doez is troll.

He has been trying to preach to us since he joined KMC that the best DBZ has done is island-bust, the guy is a ****ing moron.

Does*
1. Troll? Not really.
2. Preach? Lol more like proven already.
3. Moron? Yeeeeet NO ONE can post me Goku showing anything higher lol K.

smile Haters gonna hate.


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