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How powerful is Dooku?
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How powerful is Dooku?

I ran across a source stating he studied the Dark Holocron extensively, and this small holocron was able to make "the Darkest power in the galaxy" stronger(that being Exar Kun)

So with this and his impressive list of accolades.

Just how powerful is he?


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Assuming Legends:

As a duelist - sixth or seventh best in the mythos after Luke/Sidious/Yoda/Caedus/Windu, depending on whether you put him above Anakin. I could understand why Krayt could be above him as well. I do think that there's a pretty big gap between Caedus and (base) Windu given how Stover characterizes Windu's fight against Palpatine, and then a really small or non-existent one between Windu and Dooku (they were considered equals in Dark Rendevous, but Windu is younger than Dooku and may not have hit his prime).

As a Force wielder - around Malgus/Satele level.


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Thing about Dooku is that we never see him exercise the power he should have to its fullest extent. That is to say he doesn't unleash the same destructive power that logically weaker individuals do. And since people take flash over substance, you'll rarely see people mark him where he logically should be.

He's in that tier with the likes of Bane and Malgus, I'd say.

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He has some pretty impressive telekinesis and lightning feats in TCW, although they probably don't match the ones we see in TOR - he never really gets into such situations. Dooku's saber prowess does put some sort of lower limit on his strength in the Force - there's simply no way he could've been so formidable below a certain level, regardless of how technically skilled he was. In the RotS novelization, we know that he can replenish himself from fatigue within seconds, and, of course, we know that he can ragdoll Obi Wan pretty easily.

I guess you could make the argument, then, that he's above Vader, given that Vader fails to ragdoll enemies weaker than Obi Wan.


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People take flash over substance, you'll rarely see people mark him where he logically should be.

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He's in that tier with the likes of Bane and Malgus, I'd say.

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Between Maul and Vader tbh


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Originally posted by Aurbere
Thing about Dooku is that we never see him exercise the power he should have to its fullest extent. That is to say he doesn't unleash the same destructive power that logically weaker individuals do. And since people take flash over substance, you'll rarely see people mark him where he logically should be.

He's in that tier with the likes of Bane and Malgus, I'd say.


You and I are gonna have a talk about that tbh D:<

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Thing with Dooku is, he is a greater duelist than a combatant. I don't see Dooku replicating battlefield feats of Revan or Obi-Wan, but at the same time I see him beating them in a 1v1 duel.

That makes it pretty hard to gauge him, to be honest.


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How the **** is Dooku going to beat Revan?

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In a sabers only fuggot


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I think he means sabers only (I hope)

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How the **** is Dooku going to beat Revan?

An Dark Holocron smile


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In a sabers only fuggot

Don't even act like that's what duel implies, Polefag.

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Uh, he's the most gifted Jedi that the Jedi Order had produced in centuries during their golden age. He trained directly under the most powerful Jedi and Sith in history respectively. He's repeatedly went head to head with the greatest of the Jedi Order's heroes and came out on top fairly consistently until the very end.

Obviously he's powerful. The Dark Holocron doesn't change much of anything in that regard.


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Uh, he's the most gifted Jedi that the Jedi Order had produced in centuries during their golden age. He trained directly under the most powerful Jedi and Sith in history respectively. He's repeatedly went head to head with the greatest of the Jedi Order's heroes and came out on top fairly consistently until the very end.

Obviously he's powerful. The Dark Holocron doesn't change much of anything in that regard.


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Would've been interesting to see how powerful he could've been if he was trained by sidious from the start
I know dooku's older but still


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Better than Maul, below Vader. Maybe somewhere around Malgus.


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In new canon, top 10

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In new canon there're like 10 non-fodder force users.


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Greater than Bane


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