Well, I hope that when we die we can eat nothing but pork loin ribs and watermelon and f#ck Victoria Secret supermodels, but that doesn't make it likely.
Exactly, hope there's something sure, but I don't really expect it.
Belief in the afterlife of a paradise where everyone who obeyed this/that rule gets to go and exist happily ever after and those that didn't get anally raped in a fire pit for all eternity is little more than Santa Claus, Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy tales for the masses.
edit: I'm also not an Atheist too boot, but I don't think you need to be to see through obvious (imo) man-made fairy tales. Talking snakes, magical gardens, human-gods, transmutations, flying to heaven on a winged horse, god speaking to people etc., all fantasy stories.
I didn't want to call myself an atheist for a long time, either. And I still wish I didn't have to, because I think in a truly rational world it wouldn't be necessary, but it is necessary politically now, because it's an easy and effective way to separate yourself from the fairy-tale-believing religious folk that you speak of. Given as much as we now know about the natural world through science it just simply isn't tenable anymore to believe in extra-dimensional supernatural beings (who are oddly similarly flawed like humans). And if you do, you have to admit the lack of relevance that such a being has on the here and now. So if God exists, (s)he is irrelevant because all we have is our brains and our collaboration (or lack thereof).
If we're talking eternal bliss then of course I'd pick that over nothingness, so I guess I hope that I am wrong. That said, i do NOT hope for the christian or muslim versions of afterlife. I am going to hell according to both, which would be fine as long as I deserved it for being a bad person. But if I dont make it to heaven for not being christian/muslim enough or for "rejecting" Jesus/Allah type sh!t, then they can both go F themselves because it is not the type of heaven I'd like to go to, and I hope that it doesn't exist.
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I culd be wrong. But I was told on more than one occasion by Christians that I have to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and saivor or else I'll go to hell.
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I know, but that doesn't mean everything they say is bs. I am pretty sure that it is the case in Islam that non believers go to hell. Now I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on either religion, but a quick google search gave me this:
Mark 16:16King James Version (KJV)
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned..
And I'd like to stress that I have no idea if this verse is still relevant/accepted by Christians or even if it means what I think it means and if there are 8 others that condrodict this one etc... (and if so then please do correct me) but if it means what I think it means then it is exactly what I meant when I said that one can go to hell for not being Christian enough. In this case for not believing or being baptized.
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The problem with that interpretation is that the teological implications actually shrink the sacrifice of Christ. If you couldn't have found the Church during your lifetime, then you would be de facto condeemed to Hell, which would make Christ's Death a "partial" salvation, not available for every human being.
So to get around that problem most christian denominations assume that people can find Christ's grace outside the Church even if it's always more desirable to become a member of whichever christian beliefs they practice.
Really depends on the interpenetration, but accepting Jesus as being the only way to reach God and thereby heaven is kinda the crux of most (all?) Judeo-Christian based religions.
John John 3:16 often being quoted in this regards: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." It's the one you see most often people holding up on a piece of cardboard at rallies, sports games, conventions etc. Saw at least one person holding it up at Comic Con in San Francisco earlier this year. Even got in on the bottom on an In-N-Out Burger drink cup.
John 14:6 is another favorite that supports the belief in Jesus as savior = ticket to heaven: "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
I can't say I hope the biblical God exists. Who wants an abomination deciding where you go after you die?
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