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Every US extremist kiling in 2018 had rightist links report claims.


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not surprising at all. vanilla isis are the top terror threat in the u.s. at this point. Just look at all their supporters and enablers. In fact, here they come to derail the topic with the usual ad hominem attacks and pettifoggery


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not surprising at all. vanilla isis are the top terror threat in the u.s. at this point. Just look at all their supporters and enablers. In fact, here they come to derail the topic with the usual ad hominem attacks and pettifoggery
clearly not discussion worthy Bash.


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Well it depends on what conclusions you're trying to push.

If you're simply pushing that white supremacy is a ****ed up ideology, then I agree.

If you're trying to castigate anyone on the right, or anyone who is an antiSJW, even if they aren't white supremacists, as being tied into this bullshit, that's where I take issue. Like Bashar calling people on KMC supporters or enablers.

If you're suggesting a crackdown and censorship, like New Zealand is currently doing, then I take issue with that.


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Well it depends on what conclusions you're trying to push.

If you're simply pushing that white supremacy is a ****ed up ideology, then I agree.

If you're trying to castigate anyone on the right, or anyone who is an antiSJW, even if they aren't white supremacists, as being tied into this bullshit, that's where I take issue. Like Bashar calling people on KMC supporters or enablers.

If you're suggesting a crackdown and censorship, like New Zealand is currently doing, then I take issue with that.
you don't think supporters and enablers exist?


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Sounds like these alt right killers want to kill the left because they view them as a threat to the country. Which isn't surprising as the left views the alt-right as a threat to the country.


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that's where I take issue. Like Bashar calling people on KMC supporters or enablers.


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Sounds like these alt right killers want to kill the left because they view them as a threat to the country. Which isn't surprising as the left views the alt-right as a threat to the country.


roll eyes (sarcastic)


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vanilla isis are the top terror threat in the u.s. at this point.
Disagree. The Neapolitan kind are far, far worse.


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If you're simply pushing that white supremacy is a ****ed up ideology, then I agree.
Disagree. It is the only ideology that makes sense. Chocolate and strawberry ideology is f*cking gross.


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So I'm assuming it was a slow year for Islamic terrorism. The interesting case in your article was the guy who switched from a far right extremist to an Islamic extremist (or did I read that wrong?) Sort of speaks to the psyche of someone who gets drawn into this kind of shit.

But yeah... There's a long standing argument about whether we should be focusing on right wing terror or Islamic terror. Seems to me that since terror is so rare and since our security/surveillance state so robust, there's no reason we shouldn't be able to do both. I get the feeling that Trump thinks talking too much about right wing terror would alienate some of his base. Even people who aren't extremist can have the knee jerk reaction that by talking about such a thing you are implicating people in the right in general... Ironic after all the criticism of Obama and Hillary for not wanting to use the phrase "radical Islam" for similar reasons. Guess everyone has their own form of political correctness.

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Who kills more people, Alt right or Muslim Jihadis?


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In America?

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America and globally


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America and globally


Globally it's no question that muslims commit more acts of terror than the alt right.

In America the answer is the alt right, but there is an asterisk. The data is potentially flawed. Let me give you an example of one thing that is counted among alt right extremist killings: a husband kills himself and his wife, both are KKK members.

They are extremists and one committed murder, but it wasn't an "extremist killing". It wasn't an act of terrorism or anything.

It's sort of like when the left claims hate crimes have increased since Trump won. They never point out that this is because more and more data is collected with each year. Which is why the FBI tells people not to make year by year comparisons.


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To go a year without an Islamic terror attack in the US is a good thing and something to be celebrated. Perhaps the FBI would manage to prevent more right wing attacks if they weren't using considerable resources acting on the butthurt whims of politicians of both sides demanding constant investigations into one another for no other reason that partisan point scoring.


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To go a year without an Islamic terror attack in the US is a good thing and something to be celebrated. Perhaps the FBI would manage to prevent more right wing attacks if they weren't using considerable resources acting on the butthurt whims of politicians of both sides demanding constant investigations into one another for no other reason that partisan point scoring.


How god damn dare you expect government to get anything done.


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"but the left", "but islam", "but the gub'ment" . How about we start by acknowledging that right wing terrorists are a serious problem, at least as important to deal with as Islamic terrorism. yet we can't even call it "terrorism" because feelings will get hurt and emotions will boil over. All I see is deflection after deflection


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"but the left", "but islam", "but the gub'ment" . How about we start by acknowledging that right wing terrorists are a serious problem, at least as important to deal with as Islamic terrorism. yet we can't even call it "terrorism" because feelings will get hurt and emotions will boil over. All I see is deflection after deflection


Okay, so we have over 330 million people. How many per year die via the alt right? You just claimed it was a serious problem, back it up.

Cuz the article says 50. 50 per year, out of over 330 million.


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I have to provide the exact number of deaths or my argument is moot? That's so s&m. Deflect away, Surt. Pettifoggery for the win, as usual. Congrats thumb up


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I have to provide the exact number of deaths or my argument is moot? That's so s&m. Deflect away, Surt. Pettifoggery for the win, as usual. Congrats thumb up


The article gives the number, but I figured you had different data. Cuz the article says 50 last year. Which, while sad, isn't a serious problem in a country of over 330 million.

Yes or no are you disputing the articles claims?


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The article gives the number, but I figured you had different data. Cuz the article says 50 last year. Which, while sad, isn't a serious problem in a country of over 330 million.

Yes or no are you disputing the articles claims?


Lulz, look out guys this is a HUGE issue, it was nearly on par with the homicide rate for Chicago in a month (it's actually a bit more but less then 2 months.)

So while it's obvious for some people that extremists are garbage they violence that comes from said groups are small because there aren't that many that support said individuals or beliefs in the USA.

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