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Is it possible that Sidious actually won?
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Eli Vanto
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Is it possible that Sidious actually won?

I recently read a theory where s user detailed how Sidious may have actually won at the end of ROS, because he was able to get Rey to destroy him (by deflecting his lightning).... Which is what Sidious wanted from the beginning.

The theory goes on to suggest that Sidious's essence hopped into Rey after she killed him, and is basically hiding dormantly within her, waiting for the opportunity to surface again.

What do you guys think? Agree or disagree?


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Darth Thor
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Its just a dumb plot hole. I mean youre right he wanted her to kill him.

Im guessing he needed her to choose to be his vessel or some shit, but whatever it was it was executed terribly, and I feel thats because it really wasnt thought through at all.

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Galan007
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The implication seemed to be that Rey had to give into her emotions, and strike Palpatine down in a moment of anger, in order for the transfer to be successful... But that's not how she ultimately killed him(technically Palpatine's own attack is what destroyed him.)

Aside from that, once Palpatine absorbed the #DyadPOWA and made himself whole again, he ceased giving a shit about body-hopping, because there was no longer a need to do so.


So yeah, as of now it seems like Palpatine was meant to have been completely eradicated... But could they still bring he(or Snoke) back again in the future? Sure.


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Darth Thor
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But that's not how she ultimately killed him(technically Palpatine's own attack is what destroyed him.)



So why didnt he just Stop Firing?!

But again I dont want to get into the million plot holes of TROSs final act.

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Galan007
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If only that were the dumbest part of the ST... sad


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If only that were the dumbest part of the ST... sad


I'm not sure you could narrow down the dumbest part.....or can you? Hm...


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For me, the dumbest part was what they did to Luke. Still pisses me off.


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For me, the dumbest part was what they did to Luke. Still pisses me off.


You know, watching a video on plotholes n everything, something else was brought up. Ok so this Chosen One prophecy right.....so if taking Anakin as the Chosen One here...the balance only lasted a mere 30 years? XD

Oh but before the Prophecy, there was at least 1,000 years of peace within the Republic. Whaaat lol....the Prophecy is complete garbage if it's only for a mere 30 years!


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Galan007
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You also have to wonder if the prophesy was even fulfilled at all, given that Palpatine basically just hopped right into another body immediately after Vader's betrayal.

The whole thing is a mess.


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You also have to wonder if the prophesy was even fulfilled at all, given that Palpatine basically just hopped right into another body immediately after Vader's betrayal.

The whole thing is a mess.


Ayyye.

By the by here's the video if ya wanna see, they brought up points I didn't even consider.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ttfwyrjNv0

Which just makes it all hilarious!


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For me, the dumbest part was what they did to Luke. Still pisses me off.



He dumb part there was to act as if that was a consistent portrayal of the character.

Anyway the dumbest part and source of this whole trilogy was repeating the plot the OT. Especially For a trilogy which when watched in sequential order take place right after the OT

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Originally posted by Zenwolf
Ayyye.

By the by here's the video if ya wanna see, they brought up points I didn't even consider.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ttfwyrjNv0

Which just makes it all hilarious!


At this point, it's best to accept that the sequels are non-canon. They simply don't fit within the universe Lucas established.

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Galan007
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Originally posted by Zenwolf
Ayyye.

By the by here's the video if ya wanna see, they brought up points I didn't even consider.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ttfwyrjNv0

Which just makes it all hilarious!
This makes me sad. sad

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He dumb part there was to act as if that was a consistent portrayal of the character.
Luke: "I never lost faith in Vader. He was as evil as it gets, and his actions over the years made Kylo at his worst look like a virgin choir boy... But he wasn't beyond redemption. Kylo, on the other hand, will still become pretty bad in the future, so I should probably just kill him."


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