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Black Lantern Corps vs Cancerverse

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Black Lantern ***** the Cancer verse, and easily too if Nekron's in the fight.

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Black Lantern ***** the Cancer verse, and easily too if Nekron's in the fight.


The phuck they dont. Cancerverse easily out guns them in numbers. If Nekron steps up the plate, he still has to deal with Galactus Engine, on top The Many-Angled Ones.


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Black Lanterns. Anyone who is dead can be a Black Lantern. The numbers are near infinite.

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Naw Prep-Man, your going to have to think way more beyond simple conclusions. I can do the same.

Canververse. Benefit from Eternal Life. And their numbers are those of a rival universe +more.


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Well, I'm going with BL. Nekron turns the tide.

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Well, I'm going with BL. Nekron turns the tide.


How does he turn the tide? When the Galactus, and the Celestials struggled to keep the Galactus Engine at bay?


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I'd say Nekron is above that. The only power that harmed him was the white light. Does Galactus engine have that?

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I'd say Nekron is above that. The only power that harmed him was the white light. Does Galactus engine have that?

This is the part that is often overlooked.

The white light being the embodiment of life. The rolls are reversed, Galactus Engine is one of the Many Angles Ones, which embody Life in an alternate universe.

Simple Answer. Yes.


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That's debatable, but we'll just have to agree to disagree.

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I don't think that either one is the same. I think they both have different circumstances that would make a default victory un-obtainable for either side.

With this said, if the galactus engine and many angled ones are involved in this fight along with Lord Mar-Vell, I don't see why Black Hand or any other BL couldn't do exactly what thanos did. Because after all, Nekron is DC's embodiment of death, and the entire cancerverse was taken down by her last time. The only difference is that Nekron is seemingly higher up in the DC abstract hierarchy. Take that how you will.

I think that a strong argument could be made for either side, but seeing as this is life vs death, the invincible walking dead vs the immortal, I don't see why this wouldn't end up as a stalemate for the lesser forces on both sides.

The real battle will be Nekron vs The Many Angled ones and the Galactus Engine imo.

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Well Sirius the real battle can also be held in the lower-field. If Nekrons champion, is captured, and forgoes the ritual. It would instantly kill its abstract rendering the Black Corps obsolete.


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I don't think that either one is the same. I think they both have different circumstances that would make a default victory un-obtainable for either side.

With this said, if the galactus engine and many angled ones are involved in this fight along with Lord Mar-Vell, I don't see why Black Hand or any other BL couldn't do exactly what thanos did. Because after all, Nekron is DC's embodiment of death, and the entire cancerverse was taken down by her last time. The only difference is that Nekron is seemingly higher up in the DC abstract hierarchy. Take that how you will.

I think that a strong argument could be made for either side, but seeing as this is life vs death, the invincible walking dead vs the immortal, I don't see why this wouldn't end up as a stalemate for the lesser forces on both sides.

The real battle will be Nekron vs The Many Angled ones and the Galactus Engine imo.


Don't FORGET Black Lantern Spectre!

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Well Sirius the real battle can also be held in the lower-field. If Nekrons champion, is captured, and forgoes the ritual. It would instantly kill its abstract rendering the Black Corps obsolete.


Yeah I see what you're saying, but when they did that to thanos, the exact opposite happened. In this thread, are we assuming that this is a full force of BL's (100% battery power)? Because if thats the case, then Nekron isn't just with then, he is them. So in that case, the reverse would also be true. Also, I don't think that nekron is able to die. On panel, he took his only weakness (white light) point blank, and all that it did was banish him. He also does very well against other abstracts as he took over the specter and casually bfred the Antimoniter with a gesture, and was actualy about to kill the WL entity (although there is context surrounding that lol).

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Don't FORGET Black Lantern Spectre!


This is true. His power to bring back something that has been dead is pretty legit. I know I made an argument for the opposite, but it is a good question as to whether or not the temporary "deaths" of the cancerverse beings would count enough for nekron to control them.

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Yeah I see what you're saying, but when they did that to thanos, the exact opposite happened. In this thread, are we assuming that this is a full force of BL's (100% battery power)? Because if thats the case, then Nekron isn't just with then, he is them. So in that case, the reverse would also be true. Also, I don't think that nekron is able to die. On panel, he took his only weakness (white light) point blank, and all that it did was banish him. He also does very well against other abstracts as he took over the specter and casually bfred the Antimoniter with a gesture, and was actualy about to kill the WL entity (although there is context surrounding that lol).



This is true. His power to bring back something that has been dead is pretty legit. I know I made an argument for the opposite, but it is a good question as to whether or not the temporary "deaths" of the cancerverse beings would count enough for nekron to control them.


Don't forget that Nekron is more than just the embodiment of Death. He is also living space. Sort of like Oblivion for Marvel.

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I don't see why the Black Lanterns can't take over the Cancer verse like the way the Spectre was taking over.

Spectre is a being beyond life and death, he is God's Wrath, yet the ring took him over like it was nothing.

Then again an argument can be made as to why the ring was useless against the Phantom Stranger.

Giving anyone int the Cancer verse a temporary death is still them dying, and once that happen they are susceptible to the power of Nekron.

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Sirius77@ there is a whole lot being overlooked

Its not simply Death coming in, and destroying the Cancerverse. The ritual was essentially reversed, since Death claimed Mar-Vell (the champion of life) in the middle of the pact. If Nekron wants to do the same, than the necessary elements would need to partake.

I find that hard to beleive, if Nekron is going to have his hands tied with the Galactus Engine alone.


Than you also have to factor in that Black Lanters arn't the only ones with the option add its enemies on to their allies. The Cancerverse could convert its foes into cancer cretures through Necropsy.

You can bring up how easily Nekron disposed of the Anti-Monitor. Look at how the Galactus Engine was trucking its way through Galactus, Angled Ones, and the Celestials all at once....killing Aegis in the processes.

You bring up the Spectre being converted, well the Galactus Engine was formerly Galactus of that universe converted, and empowered by the Angled Ones.

I think this would make a good battle, its not as one-sided.


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Call me crazy but I think Cancerverse OWNS the Black Lantern Corps. I don't even think they'd lose a single member against the Black Lanterns (Even when Death pwned them, they didn't die no? They were just comatose? Anyone got the scan?).

Like ID stated before, the GE was tearing through multiple Celestials, T/A, and Galactus. There's no way Nekron is standing up to that. No way.

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Here's the scan :
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gd8NBIma-...oreveralone.jpg
They weren't killed! Just crippled and it would take them eons to heal. Cancerverse got this.


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