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With those Metron designed teleport guns, yeah.


Without them, I'd give it to Hype.


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With those Metron designed teleport guns, yeah.


Without them, I'd give it to Hype.
Idk, I don't see KH grabbing Pocket Universe Superboy by the throat with one hand, with the latter being unable to break hold with both hands. Or even having a chance against someone who can do that.


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Pretty sure that wasn't PU Superboy, but a "Hypertime" variation.


Same as when a million Batmen appeared in a Superman story, including DKR's Batman.

Up in the air as to whether it was even a Pre Crisis version, or something akin to The Adventures of Superboy adaptation of the live action TV series (Remember that? The comic was pretty awful imo.)


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Pretty sure that wasn't PU Superboy, but a "Hypertime" variation.


Same as when a million Batmen appeared in a Superman story, including DKR's Batman.

Up in the air as to whether it was even a Pre Crisis version, or something akin to The Adventures of Superboy adaptation of the live action TV series (Remember that? The comic was pretty awful imo.)
Read Superboy #8, friend.

He's the same Superboy from the Valor series ie: PU Superboy.


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Read Superboy #8, friend.

He's the same Superboy from the Valor series ie: PU Superboy.



I read it back in the day, when it was still on shelves. Didn't buy it. smile


I remember the lines "Get a job and a haircut" as he speed blitzed the heck out of Kon-El. Don't recall if there was any references to which Superboy it was though.


I mean, PU Superboy died. That one I DO remember. I also read one of the stories where PU Superboy kind of returns, for five minutes or so, as time glitch's.


The thing is, Hal Jordan destroyed the Pocket Universe, so not sure how he could still be there in Black Zero.


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With those Metron designed teleport guns, yeah.


Without them, I'd give it to Hype.


Black Zero has a combination of adult kryptonian powers + comparable TT that he can stack against KH.

I’ll have to read that arc again it’s been awhile. But black Zero was a beast.

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Black Zero stomps

King Hype is overrated garbage, he broke his hand punching depowered juggernaut, the same juggernaut luke cage was able to wreck. also he got oneshotted by canonball


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Is Pocket Universe Superboy impressive then?


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Is Pocket Universe Superboy impressive then?
he’s pre crisis level.

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I read it back in the day, when it was still on shelves. Didn't buy it. smile


I remember the lines "Get a job and a haircut" as he speed blitzed the heck out of Kon-El. Don't recall if there was any references to which Superboy it was though.


I mean, PU Superboy died. That one I DO remember. I also read one of the stories where PU Superboy kind of returns, for five minutes or so, as time glitch's.


The thing is, Hal Jordan destroyed the Pocket Universe, so not sure how he could still be there in Black Zero.
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It was that page. stick out tongue


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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Is Pocket Universe Superboy impressive then?



The Legion of Superheroes was inspired by Superboy, and the Crisis made it so Superman was never Superboy. The writers needed a way to preserve Legion histiry.

So they made a story where Time Trapper took a slice out of Pre Crisis DC time (Which was an ENTIRE universe), killed off all planets and alien races he didn't need leaving only Earth and Krypton, and redirected the LOSH time bubble into his pocket universe every time they traveled back in time.

This was all established in the pages of Action Comics, where Post Crisis Superman meets the LOSH, and eventually Superboy. Contrasts of power levels abound, such as Superboys abiility to breach the time stream under his own power, which knocks Superman simply enduring the speed and trip through the time stream.


According to Superman, Superboy was so fast he could grab a canister full of various Kryptonites out of his hands before he even saw him move.



Anyways, it was a good story. With a really sad ending, when Supes returns to a post Superboys death (By Time Trapper) Earth ravaged by the Phantom Zone Criminals. Literally everyone dies, and Superman kills.


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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.

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Is Pocket Universe Superboy impressive then?
That Superboy and all the Kryptonians from his world were far more powerful than '87 Superman at the very least.

Instances supporting this would be; Superman only barely holding his ground due to experience while noting Superboy's far greater speed and strength, Superboy being able to enter the timestream under his own power having to literally drag Superman to the Pocket Universe, Superman being afraid that even one of the criminal Kryps would kill him in a few moments, acknowledging that if the PU Kryps reached New Earth they would end it as well...

And Black Zero was choking that kid helpess with one hand while fighting a myriad of other Superboys.


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According to Superman, Superboy was so fast he could grab a canister full of various Kryptonites out of his hands before he even saw him move.
Oh yeah, I forgot that. thumb up

I loved that story despite the bittersweet ending.


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That Superboy and all the Kryptonians from his world were far more powerful than '87 Superman at the very least.

Instances supporting this would be; Superman only barely holding his ground due to experience while noting Superboy's far greater speed and strength, Superboy being able to enter the timestream under his own power having to literally drag Superman to the Pocket Universe, Superman being afraid that even one of the criminal Kryps would kill him in a few moments, acknowledging that if the PU Kryps reached New Earth they would end it as well...

And Black Zero was choking that kid helpess with one hand while fighting a myriad of other Superboys.



Again though, PU Earth was killed by the criminals, Hal destroyed the universe, and Superboy died in LOSH.


I know it's largely accepted he's PU Superboy, but that's a lot of history to just say "Same guy".


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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.

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Again though, PU Earth was killed by the criminals, Hal destroyed the universe, and Superboy died in LOSH.


I know it's largely accepted he's PU Superboy, but that's a lot of history to just say "Same guy".
Well, but it's clearly referenced in the comics that he's indeed the same guy.


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the legion from the pocket universe ceased to exist right? I remember they were saying "long live the legion" with their hands high before reality turns white. It was hella sad.

Back to this fight, Black Zero oneshots, this is spite.


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No supporters for King Hyperion?


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Kind of seems an awful lot like TOBA (Alternate Reality) Hulk. But yeah Adam Grimes, keep pushing the agenda.


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