well i have listend manson for a long time through periods of my own life that has had some relivancy.
his lyrics are profound and sometimes very in the face attitude.
i prefure the song nobodies as it is powerfull and i think because he expresses himself through music and art , it fritend peeps who not willing to exept the out of the ordinary.
overall i think manson has proved that society is still in the dark ages!
i think shit loafs of bands did that long time ago and are still doing it but not everyone goes around spreading rumours or tekkin it up the batty and then goin on tv to show it around. thats just sjubid
I'm think Manson is OK. I really like many of his singles, but most of his non-singles are boring as shit and sound a bit like non-singles of Nine Inch Nails (which I don't like). I saw Manson live once and was kind of disappointed. It was fun because of his antics, but his sound quality live was not too great. The venue was one that doesn't always do loud music justice, but other bands that I have seen there made it work well enough (like Serj Tankian and Avenged Sevenfold).
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I have mixed feelings about Manson, myself. I think his lyrics are either brilliant, kind of clever, or repetitive, immature, and annoying. But overall I find him rather addictive and I find myself listening to him over and over again. I like Twiggy Ramirez's work, but I'd really like to hear some more John-5/Manson material. That dude is a killer guitarist (I really like his solo/instrumental material) and I think they came up with some great songs together. For example...
I think I need to start lowering my expectations for the new album.. then i'll probably like it more. I liked the last album, but it was far from perfect.
I have mixed feelings about the new album. Some good songs, some that grew on me a little, and quite a few mediocre at best ones. I guess it's pretty much what I expected. Manson really needs to revamp his style. The title track "Born Villain" is really cool, though.
I'm sure no one is paying any attention to this here, but the big news is that Manson has been named as an abuser for Evan Rachel Wood and maybe a couple other victims. They dated back 10-15 years ago or so. It's a little disturbing if it's true and is breaking lots of Manson fans.
Manson, of course, denies it...
Personally I suspect he is guilty of some unsavory shit. He wasn't abusive toward previous partners as they've stated, but drugs and his ego are probably large factors. Not to mention apparent dark tastes.
Wow you the only one been posting here for 8+ years. The news about Manson is really disturbing, I always thought he was a decent guy but I guess in relationships behind closed doors etc he's different. I'm a fan of his hits like beautiful people, fight song, mobscene etc.
If he can't prove his innocence then his career is probably over if it wasn't already
Well that's the thing: two previous partners admitted that he wasn't abusive to them. Both Dita Von Teese and Rose McGowan said he wasn't like that to them. But apparently Dita Von Teese did say "‘Infidelity and Drug Abuse’ Were Behind Their Divorce." And I think that the end of that marriage was the time that he got involved with Evan Rachel Wood. In fact she might have even been who he was unfaithful with? Not sure, but anyway, the point remains... They were divorced in 2007 and that's when he started dating ERW. So that's apparently when his drug issues seemed to have been getting worse and worse. So, you know, I see it as another rock star ruined by drugs. It's just that Manson is a different sort of artist and his drug abuse problems manifested in a different way. Instead of suicide or overdose he apparently mistreated some women. I feel like his ego must have been a big factor. I can't see treating another person like that unless you think way too highly of yourself (I mean, putting aside psychopathic tendencies, etc. which I don't think he has). I think his fu#ked-up appetites and drug-warped mind got the best of him. It could cost him the rest of his career and taint his legacy. I hope not the former, probably already has the latter.
Here's my thing: I hate that he has done this, because it gives even the most Liberal people who were disgusted by him the reason they've been waiting all this time for to cancel and smear him. It will do real damage to artists and free-thinkers' reputation in general. Liberals and Conservatives alike will be happy to condemn unrestrained artistic expression.
I'll share a recent write-up from someone on the Manson group I'm a member of on Facebook. I didn't write this, so I'll share his name and give proper credit. But I like ideas he expresses. He links to an article he wrote, but what I liked the most was under that here, I've made it italics and bold...
I'm not sure if he's implying that Manson has intentionally blurred the line between his onstage persona with his real life. I don't think that's the case, because Manson denies the allegations and I would fully expect him to, because his ego has probably convinced himself that he hasn't mistreated anyone. He probably really does think he's telling the truth.
Sure, but there's a lot of really great "non-hits." I've found that most of his more recent releases have taken some years to grow on me. The new album "We Are Chaos" definitely took some time to grow on me, but I honestly think it's some of his best work. Anyway, this will always be a favorite lesser-known track of mine...
"Paint You With My Love" from the newest album reminds me of it...
Yeah we have no proof but he was swiftly cancelled anyways.
Proof anyone who says cancel culture isn't a thing is an idiot.
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