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Juggernaut or The Hulk?
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Apolloknight
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Originally posted by Dinalfos
You mean like Aliveinboston, who argued that Mindless Hulk "probably" shattered all his ribs when struck by Thor's hammer, eventhough there was absolutely no indication of that? Or like Newjak, who refuses to accept that Juggernaut got overpowered in the second last scan, despite the writer literally saying it?




Stop recyecling this stuff Dinaflos, it doesnt matter, Hulk will never Hurt Juggernaut, and you guy haent provided enought facts that Hulk can fight forever.


Im not going to debate petty stuff like that with you, there are already 365 pages of it.

Unless you can bring a new argument to the table, there is no way hulk can win, and fight forever.

FACT.


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Originally posted by newjak86
Your tiwsting words and scans my friend it doesn't matter what is said it is what is shown as well.

All it says is when HUlk gets angry and then he all we see is him grabbing the Helmet of a Cain that had already thought he had won. Catching someone of gaurd isn't overpowering him.


This is what I mean. No offense, but why didn't Apolloknight say anything about that? Apparantly, he developed an aversion against fact twisting, lately. Fine, but at least be honest about it when you're called on it.

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Originally posted by Apolloknight
Stop recyecling this stuff Dinaflos, it doesnt matter, Hulk will never Hurt Juggernaut, and you guy haent provided enought facts that Hulk can fight forever.


Im not going to debate petty stuff like that with you, there are already 365 pages of it.

Unless you can bring a new argument to the table, there is no way hulk can win, and fight forever.

FACT.


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Wtf prove hulk wins someone??????? or change your vote to Juggernaut so i can stop debating

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Originally posted by Dinalfos
This is what I mean. No offense, but why didn't Apolloknight say anything about that? Apparantly, he developed an aversion against fact twisting, lately. Fine, but at least be honest about it when you're called on it.





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Originally posted by Dinalfos
This is what I mean. No offense, but why didn't Apolloknight say anything about that? Apparantly, he developed an aversion against fact twisting, lately. Fine, but at least be honest about it when you're called on it.
What are you talking about???

I was replying to your notion that Hulk completely overpowered a Juggernaut nthat was resisting him which that doesn't show.


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Originally posted by Apolloknight
They still havent proven he can go on forever fighting someone with CL100++++ Strength. Do you know how much physical Strain he would be under fighting an bloodlusted Juggernaut, It would be Crazy, Juggernaut would be going all out, the instant Hulk is staggered or Dazed, the fight is over, JUggernaut is not going to let up, On top of this, JUggernauts Shield is going to be protecting him, and sapping the power from Hulks Punches.

If you truly believe Hulk will not be able to take his blows, then you really are underestimating his durability. And we've seen the shield fail to keep Thor's hammer from touching him. It doesn't keep outside beings from total from punching him.
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Originally posted by Metalmanx
Woah. Woah. Woah.

THAT'S stopping Juggernaut's charge? Hitting him from behind (thus not actually stopping his forward momentum, but pushing him forward more, just making him lose his balance) and then knocking him away when he's standing still? Twice?

Now it's starting to make sense.

Yes. Hitting him from behind and making his charge stop IS stopping him.
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Hulks Hits Juggernaut in the back, in the first scan, his forward momentum was not stopped.

He was knocked down and had to get up. That's stopping him, I'm afraid
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The second and thrid scan Juggernaut Rams him into a Mountain, THEN, after he rams him, Hulk hits him with a axe handle that sends Juggernaut into the dirt.

All right, so the mountain stopped him.

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Originally posted by Apolloknight
Stop recyecling this stuff Dinaflos, it doesnt matter, Hulk will never Hurt Juggernaut, and you guy haent provided enought facts that Hulk can fight forever.


Im not going to debate petty stuff like that with you, there are already 365 pages of it.

Unless you can bring a new argument to the table, there is no way hulk can win, and fight forever.

FACT.


So now you've developed an aversion against pettiness as well. When did that happen?

Anyway, you have no right to call anyone a fanboy but yourself.

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I am starting to agree with the fanboys because of how dumb you guys are being


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Originally posted by newjak86
What are you talking about???

I was replying to your notion that Hulk completely overpowered a Juggernaut nthat was resisting him which that doesn't show.


It does show that. It even says it. What it does not say or show, however, is that Juggernaut was caught off guard.

But I'm not going over this again.

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Originally posted by bigbran
still its all the same. and i dont remember every quote word for word. and bracing it is still not better.
but that doesnt matter to you.


How is catching a falling object, it's Force enhanced by the speed it's falling less than picking up a static wieght?


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Originally posted by Apolloknight
Stop recyecling this stuff Dinaflos, it doesnt matter, Hulk will never Hurt Juggernaut, and you guy haent provided enought facts that Hulk can fight forever.


Im not going to debate petty stuff like that with you, there are already 365 pages of it.

Unless you can bring a new argument to the table, there is no way hulk can win, and fight forever.

FACT.

There's also no proof that Cain can fight forever. How do we know he can? Because it's part of his powerset, that's why. No one has ever had to fight forever. The facts, however, are these:

1. Hulk has unlimited anger
2. He can fight for as long as he remains angry.
3. His durability increase as his anger does
4. His body can adapt to eliminate certain needs.

All these point to the fact that yes he can fight forever.

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Wow hulk fans you just ignore facts. You say we are underestimateing hulks durability. PROVE THIS. you say he has been hit by people stronger than juggernaut and not been koed. You dont say who and even if it happen im sure it was in an enraged state. Hulk starts off calm in this fight and Juggernaut pwns his ass in 5 minutes. Juggernaut has enough strength feats to show he has the strength to KO a calm hulk. Wow im just restating everything because you just skip over this stuff and read only things you can argue with.

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If you truly believe Hulk will not be able to take his blows, then you really are underestimating his durability. And we've seen the shield fail to keep Thor's hammer from touching him. It doesn't keep outside beings from total from punching him.

Yes. Hitting him from behind and making his charge stop IS stopping him.

He was knocked down and had to get up. That's stopping him, I'm afraid

All right, so the mountain stopped him.
a god blast is alittle more than hulk has been shown to do. and the hammer tinged off juggs.

laughing its not stopping him, standing in front and pushing him back is stopping him.

laughing when will you ever stop joking? your such a kidder.

laughing laughing laughing laughing


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So now you've developed an aversion against pettiness as well. When did that happen?

Anyway, you have no right to call anyone a fanboy but yourself.



How am I a fanboy, Juggernauts not even my favorite Character, do you see my sig. What are you talking about. I haven't recycled a damn thing I haven't had to since I began debating this.


I'm not ignoring any facts, Hulk cant fight forever, plain and simple.


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I am starting to agree with the fanboys because of how dumb you guys are being

you guys they don't get it so don't take it out on Hulk he could win 1 or 2 on a good day so don;t say he can't


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It is harder, when that person is running in the same direction as you.


Normally, I'd agree with you. But looking at the scan again, it's clear that Juggy was doing maybe...a jogging pace. Noticing the action lines behind Hulk, we can see that he was going far faster than Juggernaut and easily caught up to him. That's why it's not much of a feat that he was able to throw Juggy off-balance.

I mean, you can still shoot someone running in the opposite direction. Same thing applies here.

Or football (American, just in case there are any non-Americans here at the moment) for that matter. Running players get tackled all the time by a dive from the defender behind them. It's more about who was faster.

In this case, it looked like Hulk was sprinting and Juggy was doing something equivalent to jogging. So Hulk easily caught up to him.


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Hulk gets tired over long periods of time even with his anger feeding him adreniline. Half of the scans say hes getting tired but his anger keeps him going. It says no where that it can keep him going forever so i assume it cant. Juggernauts powerset/bio say he can go forever so we assume he can.

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Originally posted by Apolloknight



I'm not ignoring any facts, Hulk cant fight forever, plain and simple.



You're not just ignoring fact, you're ignoring common sense now.

Adrenaline ----> food, water, sleep -----> adrenaline ------> food, water, sleep -------> adrenaline.

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Ok us juggernaut fans need to stop debating about irrelavent information like whether or not he was stopped because it would still be much harder to hurt him. We need the hulk fans to prove he can win. Still they havent they just argue information that is useless like stopping him or some mountain feat that no one cares about.

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