If god creates an imperfect being and has the power to stop him from killing but chooses not to, then what right does he have to condemn the being for it's actions? If a god exists I'm not implying that he's totally responsible, but at the same time he can hardly condemn his creation for something he enabled and then allowed them to do.
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-Albert Camus
Thats what free will is, we have a choice to make a decision. God is not responsible for the things we do. If you're saying he is, then you're saying we are responsible for the things are kids do. We can bring our kids up the right way, but does that mean they will go that way?? NO, they have a choice.
hmm do you know what Free will is, choice?? it doesnt sound like it. You want to blame everything on God, instead of taking responsibility yourself. We have the choice. Just because someone is a christian does NOT make them perfect, they mess up, GOD does NOT. So, why blame God?
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Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Islam, Christianity, and Judaism all have the same Old Testament stories, Noah and the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, so on and so forth.
Allah actually means "God" in Arabic.
The only thing that these 3 religions differ in is their belief in the messiah. Christians believe the messiah has come, Jews think he hasn't, and Muslims think that Mohammed was the messiah, not Jesus. They believe that Jesus was just a great prophet.
from these facts, apparently, they all worship the same entity, but kill each other because they can't agree over one person, Jesus.
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God did give his only begotton Son to die on the cross so that everyone COULD be saved, but its their choice to rec'v or not. Yes, you must repent when you sin, it is written.
AND if you WAS a christian, then where on earlth did you get that Jesus (prophet as you say) COULD LIE?? or that God could lie?? if people thought that Jesus was Just a prophet, then they are syaing he's a liar??? right?? it plainly states that Jesus said, HE was the SON of God. God said, this is my SON whom I'm well pleased. So, where do they get that at?? you brought up those religions and what they believed in.
Now plzz try to explain to me, how anyone could believe in a lying prophet??
that's exactly why there are more religions than christianity. not everyone believes he was telling the truth whether he was lying or not. I'm not muslim, so i don't know what the **** it is that they're thinking, but i do have a muslim friend who i am willing to ask, when I can. How would YOU explain Mohammed?
Besides that, prophets are HUMAN, so they SIN, because that's what HUMANS do. LYING is a SIN. Therefore it is perfectly plausible that a prophet would lie at some point.
Great, i wish you would ask your friend. what do you mean, how would I explain Mohammed?
You are right, people are not perfect, but them saying he's a GREAT Prophet, but yet everything he said, in the Gospels would be a lie, so where is the Greatness at? God said, this is my SON whom i'm well pleased, so did God lie?
I meant explain why he was around, and did the things he did. If you don't know, research Islam, and get back to me on that.
Nearly the whole New Testament IS a lie in 2 of the top 3 religions. Great is just an adjective. Abraham was a great prophet, but he still lied and sinned, same goes for all of the other prophets most people consider great.
True, there are prophets and people in the bible that have sinned, lied, but YOU see that they did, and see the result of that. No where in the bible does it state EVER that JESUS lied.
I DID make a relationship with God. I prayed, attended church, and BELIEVED from 3rd to 7th grade, and what did I get for it? My grandmother is dying of cancer, one of my uncles had to have his leg amputated because of his diabetes, my other uncle has both diabetes and HIV, and yet another uncle has a blood clot in his leg that doctors are scared will move to his heart or lungs. Oh, and my grandfather died from a combination of skin cancer and a respiratory disease. oh, AND my mother has skin cancer too, in recession.
so you really dont know the meaning of the word indirectly. I never blamed god I just said he was indirectly responsible, for this omnipotent being creating man with free will. Well if this omnipotent being was so bloody loving as you believe this thing to be, then this thing would intervene with the will to destroy.
I dont believe in god so yes I have to take responsibility for my actions, I wrote what I wrote for the sake of argument. Chrisitans are as you say far from perfect and they mess up all the time, more than non chrisitans cause the non chrisitans dont have a set of laughable conservative moral rules to follow. Chrisitans who mess up then turn to this god of theirs to ask for forgiveness and then everything is swell, what a bunch of hypocrites. This means christians do not take responsibilities for their actions, they lean on this god of theirs to make everything alright.
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the parent is culpable for upbringing though.
Aug 27th, 2004 01:51 PM
FE, you just caught me!
