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Ushgarak
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a. Dead Jedi have a track record of coming back
b. Rumours that Liam Neeson was involved in some re-shooting work
But very flimsy stuff; there is nothing that seriously suggests it. Yet.
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Sep 25th, 2001 07:51 PM |
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queeq
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Yet, indeed.
No one ever complains about my modding, Ush. They only complain about your modding a forum you don't mod. 
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Sep 26th, 2001 10:53 AM |
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yerssot
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No, the Jedi don't have a track in TPM, otherwhise, you could also see the master of QGJ if he was dead, or his first pupil who died, wich would be very nice to see in TPM.
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Sep 26th, 2001 12:58 PM |
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Ushgarak
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yerssot, Jedi have a track record of coming backafter they die in Star Wars, so it's only natural for fans to speculate about Laim's return.
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Sep 26th, 2001 05:15 PM |
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I know, but they have to remember that was during and after ANH, nothing is known before, and for me it's quite easy; he was burnt, so he isn't a ghost
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Sep 26th, 2001 07:12 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Well, you know I agree, in principle, although it is not that he WAS burnt, it was that he DIDN'T disappear.
I am willing to bet that we will have NO more info on this at all after Ep. ii and this argument will go on for ANOTHER three years...
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Sep 26th, 2001 10:45 PM |
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queeq
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Oh GOOD!!!! 
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Sep 27th, 2001 07:39 AM |
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yerssot
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Didn't GL say that it will be FULLY explainted?
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Sep 27th, 2001 03:22 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Yes, but have we heard ANY indication that AOTC will address this?
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Sep 27th, 2001 05:22 PM |
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yerssot
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Do we have any indications that it's not in the movie?
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Sep 27th, 2001 06:07 PM |
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Ushgarak
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That's not the way around that it works, yerssot. You have to SHOW that things are, not just assume they are because there is nothing that directly says there isn't. Thing is we have heard loads of what is in AOTC and yet nothing about this subject.
I'm not ruling it out, of course...
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Sep 27th, 2001 06:19 PM |
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yerssot
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There can be a lot of rumors. Even the guys at lucasfilm can lie.
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Sep 27th, 2001 06:29 PM |
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Ushgarak
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I don't believe I denied that.
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Sep 27th, 2001 10:20 PM |
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queeq
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Yet, Lucas said it would be explained, either in EpII or EpIII.
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Sep 28th, 2001 07:26 AM |
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queeq
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Okay, new angle on Ush's "Force feeling" theory, with which I still not agree.
Summary: Ush does not believe Jedi can feel the Force in a person, only that they can sense minds. He says about the ANH line of Vader "The Force is strong with him" that that was just an expression of saying he was lucky, not that Vader in fact felt that the Force with strong with him.
Now, here my new angle on this which I hope proves Ush wrong.
Quote from ESB, a cosy convo:
VADER: What is thy bidding, my master?
EMPEROR: There is a great disturbance in the Force.
VADER: I have felt it.
EMPEROR: We have a new enemy - Luke Skywalker.
VADER: Yes, my master.
EMPEROR: He could destroy us.
VADER: He’s just a boy. Obi-Wan can no longer help him.
EMPEROR: The Force is strong with him. The son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi.
Especially the last line is important. Now, I doubt that the Emperor means that Luke is a lucky boy here. He actually senses that the Force is strong with Luke. So why would that be any different from Vader's line in the trench.....?
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Sep 28th, 2001 11:03 AM |
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yerssot
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The Force is strong with this one, can be interpreted in 2 ways; the one Ush told for ANH and the one the Emperor told in ESB.
Just a though
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Sep 28th, 2001 03:13 PM |
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queeq
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But.... then we'd have no debate? 
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Sep 28th, 2001 03:17 PM |
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yerssot
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Oh! I'm sorry! I ment that there is only one way that can be interpreted.
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Sep 28th, 2001 03:20 PM |
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queeq
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Yes, so no debate? 
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Sep 28th, 2001 03:22 PM |
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yerssot
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Ush is SO WRONG!
that better?
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Sep 28th, 2001 03:27 PM |
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