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JediHDM
Jedi of the Matrix
 Gender: Male
Location: United States |
it would have to be a lady, cause then i could say "You would know mum"
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Nov 10th, 2003 09:32 PM |
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furryman
honky
 Gender: Male
Location: Flying |
if your lucky 
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Nov 10th, 2003 09:33 PM |
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The Omega
Z10N0101
 Gender: Female
Location: Denmark |
Burlyman, JediHDM > (sniffs) Thank you… Why do they call these things WATERPROOF mascara??? (Listens to Navras by Juno Reactor/Don David – A friend just send me that… Does anyone know what they’re singing btw??)
SimplePriest> Yes, I started about 2½ years ago, after seeing Crouching Tiger, Sleeping Dragon (which, btw. also tore me up completely), and stumbling across a kwoon five minutes away from where I live.
I leave some of JediHDM’s and Burlyman’s cookies for you. And something which is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of our greatest weakness and strength. Hope.
The man I saw the movie with tonight is, among many things, a computer-expert. When we left the theatre, and I was wiping my eyes again, I asked him why he wasn’t sad and touched. He said he was, but asked why on Earth I thought Neo and Trin were dead? That was kinda obvious, I replied and went to the ladies room to try and remove all my smeared eye make-up.
They’re not gone, my computer-friend told me. And asked if it completely went over my head that Rama-Kandra talked about Karma, that the end-theme was so clearly Arabian/Indian inspired, that they couldn’t see Neo when he’d left Mobil Avenue, that Trinity, and Trinity alone, had gone to Mobil Avenue, and that while Morpheus said in M1 that “the body cannot live without the mind”, no one has told us, that the mind cannot live without the body. And that Trin’s body is right there in 01, among the machines, who’ve studied the human protein-based bodies in details.
Huh? (<- me)
The Oracle tells us, that we may see Neo again, some day. That’s obviously possible, but he would never, never return to the Matrix if there is no chance of bringing Trinity back. Everything that’s touched the Matrix can be restored. Even today, if you delete your entire computer, there exists programs that can restore things.
You cannot have Neo return without Trinity, he insisted. Karma is not as much purpose, as it is learning. Learning about life, and returning, based on the lessons of the past life. But you cannot have the one without the other.
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"That includes ruining Halloween because someone swallowed a Bible."
"I just thought you were a guy."
"... Most guys do."
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Nov 10th, 2003 11:11 PM |
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furryman
honky
Gender: Male
Location: Flying |
omega's computer-expert friend> 
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Nov 10th, 2003 11:14 PM |
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JediHDM
Jedi of the Matrix
Gender: Male
Location: United States |
Omega> the lyrics are on this forum around here somewhere *stands up and starts looking around* i don't remember where, though...my fav, i think, would have to be Moribund Mifune, or Navras, or Neodammerung, or...ah, heck, i love em all...(except the one by Pale...dont like it) and, do you think you could explain that one more time, cause i think i lost you somewhere...are you saying that, although Trinity's mind has never touched the Source, and she is not the ONE, that she is still alive? because, the Matrix has got to be more RAM than anything else...i don't think a copy of her RSI was stored in the Matrix, if thats what hes saying...
Priest> NEO IS NOT DEAD!!!!
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Nov 11th, 2003 01:09 AM |
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furryman
honky
Gender: Male
Location: Flying |
i dont think anyones mentioned Charlotte yet ...that was a painful but brave way to go
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Nov 11th, 2003 02:23 AM |
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The Unknown
Anomaly
 Gender: Male
Location: 01 |
JediHDM, I think what she means is that when Trinity first jacked in, she was saved into the Matrix program. In a computer, it is the same. When a file is opened or accessed, it is automatically saved into the computer.
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-The Architect AKA Larry
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Nov 11th, 2003 02:30 AM |
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JediHDM
Jedi of the Matrix
Gender: Male
Location: United States |
burly> Charlotte?!?! I thought her name was Char, as in C++...oh well
the unknown> but im saying that there is no point for the matrix to store their RSI in a huge Harddrive...
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Nov 11th, 2003 02:45 AM |
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The Unknown
Anomaly
Gender: Male
Location: 01 |
Yeah, but the Matrix might automatically do it or someone, but anyways, it wouldn't be her "mind", if anything, it would just be her shell in the Matrix.
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"The MTV Movie Awards are a systemic anomaly inherent to the programming of the Matrix. Although the transport process has altered your consciousness, you irrevocably remain human. Ergo, concordantly, vis-a-vis... You know what? I have no idea what the hell I'm saying. I just thought it would make me sound cool."
-The Architect AKA Larry
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Nov 11th, 2003 02:50 AM |
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JediHDM
Jedi of the Matrix
Gender: Male
Location: United States |
but why would the matrix even want to keep a copy of her shell?! there would be no point...
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Nov 11th, 2003 02:58 AM |
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The Unknown
Anomaly
Gender: Male
Location: 01 |
IDK, maybe to later create a program out of it.
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"The MTV Movie Awards are a systemic anomaly inherent to the programming of the Matrix. Although the transport process has altered your consciousness, you irrevocably remain human. Ergo, concordantly, vis-a-vis... You know what? I have no idea what the hell I'm saying. I just thought it would make me sound cool."
-The Architect AKA Larry
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Nov 11th, 2003 03:01 AM |
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JediHDM
Jedi of the Matrix
Gender: Male
Location: United States |
and this would serve what purpose? Im not trying to be rude, but it is illogical to save the RSI of a human for ANY reason...
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Nov 11th, 2003 03:05 AM |
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The Unknown
Anomaly
Gender: Male
Location: 01 |
I'm just trying to defend what Omega says, and anyways, perhaps all of the other programs inside of the Matrix were created from human RSI's.
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"The MTV Movie Awards are a systemic anomaly inherent to the programming of the Matrix. Although the transport process has altered your consciousness, you irrevocably remain human. Ergo, concordantly, vis-a-vis... You know what? I have no idea what the hell I'm saying. I just thought it would make me sound cool."
-The Architect AKA Larry
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Nov 11th, 2003 03:09 AM |
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JediHDM
Jedi of the Matrix
Gender: Male
Location: United States |
Not all of them...because they wouldn't have had human RSI's when they first created the matrix...thus, Mero, Seraph, Perse, Oracle, Archie, etc. were created with brand new shells
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Nov 11th, 2003 03:34 AM |
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The One Part 2
Senior Member
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Location: United States |
Neo may have stopped breathing, he isn't necessarily dead. We never see his body disposed of on screen, therefore his death is not canon. For a Christ-like figure, death would completely be out of the question. Jesus died and rose again. One could say that Neo did this in M1, but Jesus never died, he ascended into heaven to return again. If the Wachowskis are using Neo to represent Jesus, they did NOT have him die.
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Nov 11th, 2003 05:09 AM |
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S_D_J
Bane
 Gender: Male
Location: Coming to Gotham |
neo has ascended, i'm pretty sure we will see him or there'll be a reference of him in matrix online, just like the twins
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Nov 11th, 2003 04:21 PM |
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furryman
honky
Gender: Male
Location: Flying |
jed>  yeah maybe it was  i thought it was char... short for charlotte....
credits: Charra
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Nov 11th, 2003 05:08 PM |
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Korri
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i feel like shit today
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Nov 11th, 2003 06:34 PM |
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furryman
honky
Gender: Male
Location: Flying |
 *hugs and cookies and eveything nice*
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Nov 11th, 2003 06:35 PM |
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