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Papaumau
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Ooooooooooooops.....Sowwy.....

Well that's two of us that have asked that question.....

ANYBODY ?


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Not very specific, but...

quote:
Originally posted by Phoenix
QUOTE >> "To be in love is to be blind. To love is to see." << QUOTE


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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Zero
Again subjective in the extreme. Love for parent, love for friend, love for pet, love of Ice-cream, I love those shoes on you, Jesus loves you.

Do all these things speak of the same love? no - since everyone uses the word to describe a multitude of feelings the chances of 2 people meaning the same thing at the same time are slim as hell.



Very well said. For once, we agree.


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Originally posted by Papaumau
In the movies...They say..."I love you but I am not IN love with you"

As this definition seems to change everytime it is said I was wondering what was the difference between "loving" someone and being "in love" with someone ?



Personally I think they mean the same thing ... but i think some ppl just use that a an excuse to when they dont want to commit .. but thats just my opion

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I personally believe, as I'm sure anyone who's been in any degree of love can attest to, that it brings both the greatest happiness. But can also bring the greatest pain.

It's a weird thing. I'm not afraid to talk about it, I like talking about it unlike most people.

However, I don't like the sickly type of love. I believe romance has it's place, but there's romance and then there's "Pass me that bucket please. No the one next to it that says 'incase of horrid love cliches, break glass' on it" stuff.

I know from experience that when you are in love, regardless of whatever is happening in your life at that point, you feel like you can do anything and nothing will go wrong. Everything seems to be perfect. When love goes wrong or doesn't work out, it feels like a crucial part of your actual being has been removed. You CAN get over it, but it effects you in a big way, if the love was real.

Regardless, there's probably nothing better than sitting next to someone and feeling a certain way while knowing they feel the same way back. Besides music of course.

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I personally believe, as I'm sure anyone who's been in any degree of love can attest to, that it brings both the greatest happiness. But can also bring the greatest pain.

-AC



Anything that brings you great joy, and probablly bring you great pain. But that question is Is it worth it? I know everyone feels all kinds ways on rather love is worth it, or not. For me I think it is because at least I had some happyness for a little bit, even if it did not last long

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Hiya...Vaya....

You are the only one so-far that has tried to separate the phrase "I love you" from the phrase "I am in love with you"

I suppose that the obvious answer would be that to say you are "in" love when the other person says that too but I see this phrase "in love" in the movies and on the TV to mean something different from what one would expect.

Maybe it is just Hollywood playing with the "love" word in order to confuse us ?

It certainly confuses the hell out of me !


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Ancient Greeks believed love was an illness. Maybe thats all it is, a state of mind.


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Like was said before, love means something different to different people. I guess that's why some people kill themselves over the end of a relationship and others go on with their lives.

But, in my experience there are two kinds of love. For lack of better terms, there is masculine love and there is feminine love. Let me explain what I mean.

Masculine love is a very superficial love. I love him for the way he looks or I love her because she turns me on in a sexual manner. Then there's feminine love: I love him because he makes me FEEL "love"(more than the physical) I want to live with her or I want to have his babies and share a life with him.

Either of these types of love can be deep and emotional, but one is more feeling than the other. That's why I use the terms masculine and feminine. I also use those terms because those feelings are often associated with men and women. Men are pigs because they just want sex and women feel their way through a relationship.

But, these are just my opinions and observations...everyone sees the world differently


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"But that question is Is it worth it?"

It's absolutely worth it. Even if you're never in love again. Because it is one of the greatest feelings ever. I think if you split up from a long, loving relationship, the pain is gonna be major. Well, it IS major, I know. But in the grand scheme of things you look back and feel so happy that you WERE happy.

I love my parents, I'm not IN love with them. The person I am in love with I would genuinely do anything for and I know the feeling is mutual. If things ended tomorrow it would hurt, for a long time, but it was worth trying.

"Men are pigs because they just want sex and women feel their way through a relationship."

I don't mean to be ahem...rude or anything. But I am a man and I don't want ONLY sex, nor am I a pig. Don't speak for me. Women can be just as, if not more superficial than men. It's actual fact that men are more honest when it comes to if they want sex or a relationship. It's like me saying all women are devious. They aren't, but some are. Some men are just in it for sex, some aren't. As are some women.

There's nothing wrong with just wanting sex. If you come clean and say to a woman right away "I'm only after sex" and she says "Ok that's cool" but then secretly thinks "Nah he'll come around", that's her fault. Women DO tend to do that. Ignore the honesty and think that they can change the way a man who just wants sex, thinks. You can't. Some women do just want sex also.

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quote:
Originally posted by Papaumau
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Maybe it is just Hollywood playing with the "love" word in order to confuse us ?

It certainly confuses the hell out of me !



Like I said before I think we use the word love way to much for stuff... I know i use it to much

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
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"Men are pigs because they just want sex and women feel their way through a relationship."

I don't mean to be ahem...rude or anything. But I am a man and I don't want ONLY sex, nor am I a pig. Don't speak for me. Women can be just as, if not more superficial than men. It's actual fact that men are more honest when it comes to if they want sex or a relationship. It's like me saying all women are devious. They aren't, but some are. Some men are just in it for sex, some aren't. As are some women.


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I have to agree with you that all men are not pigs.. I know some that are real sweethearts, but their are only a few i know... I do no more guys who act like pigs, but I guess thats that kind of world we live in

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"But that question is Is it worth it?"

It's absolutely worth it. Even if you're never in love again. Because it is one of the greatest feelings ever. I think if you split up from a long, loving relationship, the pain is gonna be major. Well, it IS major, I know. But in the grand scheme of things you look back and feel so happy that you WERE happy.

I love my parents, I'm not IN love with them. The person I am in love with I would genuinely do anything for and I know the feeling is mutual. If things ended tomorrow it would hurt, for a long time, but it was worth trying.

"Men are pigs because they just want sex and women feel their way through a relationship."

I don't mean to be ahem...rude or anything. But I am a man and I don't want ONLY sex, nor am I a pig. Don't speak for me. Women can be just as, if not more superficial than men. It's actual fact that men are more honest when it comes to if they want sex or a relationship. It's like me saying all women are devious. They aren't, but some are. Some men are just in it for sex, some aren't. As are some women.

There's nothing wrong with just wanting sex. If you come clean and say to a woman right away "I'm only after sex" and she says "Ok that's cool" but then secretly thinks "Nah he'll come around", that's her fault. Women DO tend to do that. Ignore the honesty and think that they can change the way a man who just wants sex, thinks. You can't. Some women do just want sex also.

-AC


You misunderstand. I wasn't saying that men ARE pigs. I was simply saying that was my reason for using the two terms the way I did. I know lots of men who aren't pigs. Trust me. In fact, I know more gay men who are pigs than I do straight men who are pigs. I was simply illustrating my point that there is that universal understanding of masucline and feminine.


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All is well, fair points one and all.

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No matter how you ppl define love.......Everyone deserves to be loved. Period!


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Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I was simply illustrating my point that there is that universal understanding of masculine and feminine.


Well in that case you were failing - because it looked and sounded like plain old sexist crap to me and I still have exactly no bloody idea what on earth "universal understanding of masculine and feminine." could possibly mean.

Feel free to tell me if you have the time?

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quote:
Originally posted by WindDancer
No matter how you ppl define love.......Everyone deserves to be loved. Period!


One of the problems in discussing love is that we get cliches that dont mean anything trundled out...

Why on earth does everyone deserve to be loved? How exactly does ANYBODY go about deserving love?

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One of the problems in discussing love is that we get cliches that dont mean anything trundled out...

Why on earth does everyone deserve to be loved? How exactly does ANYBODY go about deserving love?


If you view love as a positive thing. Then yeah, everyone deserves love.


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Originally posted by WindDancer
If you view love as a positive thing. Then yeah, everyone deserves love.


Oh now I get it.

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“Falling in love” is – from a scientific perspective – nothing more than a hormone-cocktail in your brain that gets you a little “high” (or irrational or…).
This cocktail basically has one purpose – procreate the species.
And how un-poetic is THAT? (But it helps to know this sometimes smile).

Men are NOT pigs. They’re simply turned on by other things than what turns a woman on. The two genders are different, due to the hormones that MAKE us different (Q: When is a woman most like a man? A: During PMS, when he oestrogen level is the lowest!).
What turns a woman on? Romance, involvement, communication, intimacy, non-sexual touch. What turns a man on? Pornography, naked women, variations in sex, lingerie, availability.
Studies show that, so that’s just the way things ARE. What turns men on are currently viewed as dirty, disgusting, rude or perverted – especially by women.
Currently the woman’s view rule supreme in books and Hollywood movies. But a male friend of mine once said “Everything men do, they do for women.” smile


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