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skullkid02
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explaining why Mr. Smith lost...please read!!
ok, now this is my theory....the oracle says that Mr. Smith is Neo's opposite or negative. at the end of "Reloaded" the architect says that everything in the matrix is mathematically set up and that everything can be explained through a mathematical equation. my theory is that because Mr. Smith is Neo's opposite or "negative" as the Oracle says, that when he copies Neo "the positive" he is thus making 2 negatives and thus making a positive and therefore canceling himself out. he (Mr. Smith) was able to see through the oracle's eyes that this event was the end although not being able to see his own demise; he just didn't see his own "choice" to copy Neo and cancel himself out by the mathematical equation of 2 negatives equal a positive. does this make sense to anyone or am i just way off?? please respond....thanks!!!!
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Nov 10th, 2003 01:10 AM |
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dave123
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negative + positive = neutral
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Nov 10th, 2003 01:12 AM |
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i was just about to post that...DAMN YOU FUNNY BOY......DAMN YOU (funny boy is dave) 
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Nov 10th, 2003 01:18 AM |
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skullkid02
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negative times negative equals positive
(-) x (-) = (+)
when copying something ur making a duplicate not just adding the things together, ur taking 2 or more things and multiplying them by each other to get a result
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Nov 10th, 2003 01:19 AM |
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dave123
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too slow  
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Nov 10th, 2003 01:20 AM |
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dave123
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why are you timsing negatives, neo is positive
plus it is addition, think about atoms
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Nov 10th, 2003 01:21 AM |
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skullkid02
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Neo is positive, not negative.....Mr. smith is Neo's negative"opposite"
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Nov 10th, 2003 01:24 AM |
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Neo is not the NUMBER 1, any more than Smith is THE number –1 (just stating the obvious). The points is, that Neo and Smith are opposites, and they do cancel each other out. That’s the 1-1=0
Alternatively… When Smith (-1) infects Neo (1) the equation IS unbalanced (-1(1)=-1), allowing for the Speak-machine to use the anti-virus program.
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Nov 10th, 2003 01:25 AM |
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skullkid02
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Neo is not number one(1)........HE IS "THE" ONE.
think variables here...they are X and -X
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Nov 10th, 2003 01:28 AM |
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I don't buy this anti-virus program loaded into Neo business. If that were the case, why not load that program into any one else connected to the Matrix? If they had that program they could have loaded it into an agent for a suicide mission to have it intentionally get taken over by Smith... Game Over. I have only seen the movie twice, but after Smith assimilates Neo, back in the real world something is going on. Light goes in or out Neo or whatever (like feedback or something) Neo struggles around a bit in his "crucifixion" chair and then back in the Matrix Neo-Smith eyes start glowing then he splits into fragments like Smith did at the end of M1. Originally, I thought the positive Neo and negative Smith just cancelled each other out, but clearly something was happening in the real world. It really bothers me that I don't understand it. Presumably the Machines and Neo combine forces somehow to defeat Smith. But how??????
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Nov 10th, 2003 02:43 AM |
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JKozzy
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Yeah... where did anti-virus come from? Once Smith cloned himself onto Neo, couldn't those spasms have been from Smith trying to get into the Machine city ("He has spread throughout the Matrix and will into this city. You cannot stop him, but I can") but Neo stopped him somehow? Bane's self-conscious couldn't have been deleted, as Neo's couldn't have been. Bane might have been in the back of his head just looking and seeing what was going on while Smith controlled him.
Has anyone read the Animorphs series? Just like Yeerks!!
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Nov 10th, 2003 02:49 AM |
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Lite-x2x
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My Smith Theory ^^
Smith returned in Reloaded because he was compelled to disobey. He says it was purpose that created us and without purpose we wouldn't exist. His new purpose or objective in his programming was to destroy Neo. In M3, after assimilating him, he has completed his ultimate goal and has lost purpose. Ergo he has no reason to exist and explodes/deletes/selfdestruct/etc. This would explain why he thinks its a trick and thinks its unfair.
The theory about Smith being his opposite would probably explain why Smith is so strong because he inheritted Neo's powers in M1.
I don't believe in the anti-virus theory because little evidence from the movie supports it.
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Nov 10th, 2003 03:20 AM |
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JKozzy
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Lite-x2x, I completely agree with you. There is no evidence for this anti-virus theory... purpose is what the movies are all about, and that's a perfect explination for it!
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Nov 10th, 2003 04:05 AM |
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JediHDM
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lite> the only reason we call it an "anti-virus" is that, Neo is taken over by Smith, then the cords send a shockwave of light, some kind of coding, into Neo, and he begins to glow then...
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Nov 10th, 2003 04:32 AM |
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JKozzy
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OOooo I get it.. but I still agree with lite's theory better.. sorry Jedi. The shockwave of light I think is just Smith trying to access the 01 mainframe but being rejected and being forced back into Neo... then wiping out the anomoly and creating no purpose for either of them.
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Nov 10th, 2003 04:37 AM |
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Lite-x2x
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It could've been shockwaves but it could've also been body movement like if he was getting shot in the Matrix. It could have been anything. You just can't be too sure of what happened. Any of these theories could be right and that is exactly why I disliked the ending but its sort of fun to try and interpret what happened.
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Nov 10th, 2003 04:38 AM |
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SimplePriest
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hey guys, I'm sorry. I think I may be to blame for the Anti-virus theory. I know I'm not the only peroson to come up with the idea but I posted it. I got it from those pulses of light that jedi mentioned. I thought it made perfect sense too, until Rosewood brought up the good point that they could've probably done that through anyone else still connected to the matrix.
Well, back to square one... Anyone know how Smith got killed?
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Nov 10th, 2003 05:28 AM |
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JediHDM
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yeah, the idea by Lite makes sense, but i still cling to Nortons...afterall, it works on my PC, why not on Smith? Its like the mother of all EMP's...
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Nov 10th, 2003 05:33 AM |
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SimplePriest
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wow Lite... that's a good theory. I didn't think of that. Same to you Jkozzy. On behalf of my poor theory, I now place my foot into my mouth
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Nov 10th, 2003 05:43 AM |
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JediHDM
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Simple> take your foot outta yo mouth...we've all made mistakes here *cough* MWAM *cough* but we should just forgive, forget, and move past...
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