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"Ure points r completely ludicrous! U r comparing a crazy clown to the greatest entertainer of modern times- its just a completely random comparison. You seem like you've been hurt at some point in your life by people because your quicker to believe the most evil things of them rather than facing the facts- that sometimes there are just GOOD people!"--------------Mistyblue


you are dumb. you said the following:

"i mean think about it- if he was molesting kids he must be evil and y would an evil man give all of the money away to charities that he has and do all the good that he has done"

John Gacy was wonderful with children. He was a children's party clown for Christs sake. He made his living being wonderful to children and entertaining them. That is what he spent his life doing..he spent his life being great to kids. This did not stop him from being a cold blooded killer though did it?

So John Gacy who dedicated his life to making children happy could savagely kill numerous people, but by your reasoning Michael Jackson could not molest a child (well, multiple children have already come forth) because he was so good to kids and gave to charities? You lack in logic and common sense. Do you even think about what you are posting before you hit that "submit reply" button?

What you are saying is that people who have a good public image entertaining children can kill numerous people but they are not capable of molesting children. Your argument is completely inane.


Deny it all you want.......the following is a matter of public and legal record:

Michael Jackson was accused of child molestation. Michael Jackson then paid an enormous sum of money to the child's parents so they would stay quiet and he wouldn't face a legal trial. Years later........he is accused of child molestation again.....only this time he cannot buy his way out of facing the legal ramifications of his actions.

That my friend is a matter of legal record........all is documented. Innocent men clear their names.......they don't pay millions of dollars in "hush money".........innocent people don't get accused of the very same crime over and over again.


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i think it funny all these people know so much about the us legal system but they dont live in the states


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Wait a minute here! these parents want money!

What kind of parent puts a child in a care of a man who was suspected to have been previously abusing children. Thats stupid..if i had a child, i would NOT put him/her in a care of a man where there is a SLIGHEST chance that he could have been abusive to another child....


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bitchiness..........

Perhaps those parents were just like these little girls who keep posting on here that Jackson is innocent. Perhaps his parents denied that Jackson could do no wrong like Mistyblue and kimmie do. I'm sure those girls would let Jackson watch their children (well, when they are old enough to have children)..........it just came up to bite the parents in the ass. The very thing they were in denial about for so long finally happened to their son.


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deny what huh?! i aint denying anything i see all the facts and a lot of holes in the prosecutions case. You just talk alot of shit out of ur ass, u have conficted this man when he hasnt even been charged, also its been delayed twice?! hmm...i wonder why?And calling for more victims? Sorry but no one called in HA!
Not even 1 piece of evidence whats so ever . You have conficted this man based on innuendo's and not facts. What happened to the love letters and pills??!! Duh of course its bull anyone with a half brain should know that. When MJ was in handcuffs he lifted his hands on purpose to show the world along with the confidence and vigour of his exit from the police station. The mother has been locked up in a mental institution b4 and she suffers from psychosis. The Mom filed a lawsuit in 1999 against JCPenney and Tower Records, in which they claimed store security guards beat the family after an alleged shoplifting episode in West Covina, Calif. (Shoplifting charges were filed but dropped.) In the suit, the family never mentioned sexual assault. But two years after the incident, NEWSWEEK has learned, all four members of the family claimed in depositions that the Tower guard had sexually assaulted the mother during the incident. Hmm?!!!! This ***** acussed him of asault when they we're shop lifting in the store?!
Now, as all people with a brain should know, if someone molests your child, the first place you should go is to the Police or Sherrif. You don't go to two different civil attorneys.

Now, what does it tell you about these people?

The DA should do a background check on accusers before he trashes people's houses in unneccesary searches and handcuffs people who haven't done anything wrong.
What DA calls Mike "Wacko Jacko"?! The DA keeps leaking crap to the media why!?
The DA's office told the family to call? Why?

Quote - "the family told us that the D.A told them to leak info". It incinuates that sneddon is involved....so hmm the DA tells the family to leak info and crap?! LOL talk about it idiots. The bomb has already exploted.
Sneddon's ass is in a sling on this one.

The DA - "They're being very, very careful," Really?!!!!!!! When you have the truth on your side, you never need to worry about being careful. CAreful is for people who need to keep their lies straight..

As for Michael, all he saw was a sick kid and he answered with his heart instead of his head.
What GOES around, COMES around and the ish is hitting the HATERS now.....

You owe Mike an apology when you realize this whole thing is a
big joke. You never want to hear the other side of the story. Why dont you just wait for Mike's side of the story?!
When Michael wins, the bashers will have to find something else to
criticise him for...eh??!

You reckon MJ is guilty then good on yah must be proud.


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deny what huh?! i aint denying anything i see all the facts and a lot of holes in the prosecutions case. You just talk alot of shit out of ur ass, u have conficted this man when he hasnt even been charged, also its been delayed twice?! hmm...i wonder why?And calling for more victims? Sorry but no one called in HA!
Not even 1 piece of evidence whats so ever . You have conficted this man based on innuendo's and not facts. What happened to the love letters and pills??!! Duh of course its bull anyone with a half brain should know that. When MJ was in handcuffs he lifted his hands on purpose to show the world along with the confidence and vigour of his exit from the police station. The mother has been locked up in a mental institution b4 and she suffers from psychosis. The Mom filed a lawsuit in 1999 against JCPenney and Tower Records, in which they claimed store security guards beat the family after an alleged shoplifting episode in West Covina, Calif. (Shoplifting charges were filed but dropped.) In the suit, the family never mentioned sexual assault. But two years after the incident, NEWSWEEK has learned, all four members of the family claimed in depositions that the Tower guard had sexually assaulted the mother during the incident. Hmm?!!!! This ***** acussed him of asault when they we're shop lifting in the store?!
Now, as all people with a brain should know, if someone molests your child, the first place you should go is to the Police or Sherrif. You don't go to two different civil attorneys.

Now, what does it tell you about these people?

The DA should do a background check on accusers before he trashes people's houses in unneccesary searches and handcuffs people who haven't done anything wrong.
What DA calls Mike "Wacko Jacko"?! The DA keeps leaking crap to the media why!?
The DA's office told the family to call? Why?

Quote - "the family told us that the D.A told them to leak info". It incinuates that sneddon is involved....so hmm the DA tells the family to leak info and crap?! LOL talk about it idiots. The bomb has already exploted.
Sneddon's ass is in a sling on this one.

The DA - "They're being very, very careful," Really?!!!!!!! When you have the truth on your side, you never need to worry about being careful. CAreful is for people who need to keep their lies straight..

As for Michael, all he saw was a sick kid and he answered with his heart instead of his head.
What GOES around, COMES around and the ish is hitting the HATERS now.....

You owe Mike an apology when you realize this whole thing is a
big joke. You never want to hear the other side of the story. Why dont you just wait for Mike's side of the story?!
When Michael wins, the bashers will have to find something else to
criticise him for...eh??!

You reckon MJ is guilty then good on yah must be proud.


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ya thumbs up kim. although i think ur posts should b shorter but this 1 was completely worth it. mj is innocent he is THE KING OF POP, no not justin timberlake!crazy people.


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"kim" needs to calm down or type more coherently because her posts are so horrible to read through it's hard to even want to finish them and get her point.

but anyways, i think he's guilty. the one case that everyone is making a fuss about is most likely a scam to get jackson's money. there are several others that are on the back burner. and a lot of this has been pending for years, it's not like they just heard the news and decided to "cash in". we'll see what happens.


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deny what huh?! i aint denying anything i see all the facts and a lot of holes in the prosecutions case. You just talk alot of shit out of ur ass, u have conficted this man when he hasnt even been charged, also its been delayed twice?! hmm...i wonder why?And calling for more victims? Sorry but no one called in HA!
Not even 1 piece of evidence whats so ever . You have conficted this man based on innuendo's and not facts. What happened to the love letters and pills??!! Duh of course its bull anyone with a half brain should know that. When MJ was in handcuffs he lifted his hands on purpose to show the world along with the confidence and vigour of his exit from the police station. The mother has been locked up in a mental institution b4 and she suffers from psychosis. The Mom filed a lawsuit in 1999 against JCPenney and Tower Records, in which they claimed store security guards beat the family after an alleged shoplifting episode in West Covina, Calif. (Shoplifting charges were filed but dropped.) In the suit, the family never mentioned sexual assault. But two years after the incident, NEWSWEEK has learned, all four members of the family claimed in depositions that the Tower guard had sexually assaulted the mother during the incident. Hmm?!!!! This ***** acussed him of asault when they we're shop lifting in the store?!
Now, as all people with a brain should know, if someone molests your child, the first place you should go is to the Police or Sherrif. You don't go to two different civil attorneys.

Now, what does it tell you about these people?

The DA should do a background check on accusers before he trashes people's houses in unneccesary searches and handcuffs people who haven't done anything wrong.
What DA calls Mike "Wacko Jacko"?! The DA keeps leaking crap to the media why!?
The DA's office told the family to call? Why?

Quote - "the family told us that the D.A told them to leak info". It incinuates that sneddon is involved....so hmm the DA tells the family to leak info and crap?! LOL talk about it idiots. The bomb has already exploted.
Sneddon's ass is in a sling on this one.

The DA - "They're being very, very careful," Really?!!!!!!! When you have the truth on your side, you never need to worry about being careful. CAreful is for people who need to keep their lies straight..

As for Michael, all he saw was a sick kid and he answered with his heart instead of his head.
What GOES around, COMES around and the ish is hitting the HATERS now.....

You owe Mike an apology when you realize this whole thing is a
big joke. You never want to hear the other side of the story. Why dont you just wait for Mike's side of the story?!
When Michael wins, the bashers will have to find something else to
criticise him for...eh??!

You reckon MJ is guilty then good on yah must be proud.

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'WOW, for someone who seems to be such a US hater, you seem to sound a lot like our president.
The 'evil' word count is about the same.'

Curl up and dye- excuse me but who are you 2 accuse me of being a U.S hater! I'm merely stating facts and at which point in my message did you get the idea that I hate the U.S. I just made an observation that people in the U.S seem to be quicker to accuse Mj without even having evidence!
'Your little speech isn't going to change the fact that people don't like him, and do find him extremely creepy as well as a shifty son of a b!tch.'
Oh my God! The purpose of 'My little speech'! is to be an attempt to make people who have got their tiny minds set on mj's guilt to actually look at the case from a different point of view- but I now see that you are 2 ignorant 2 listen 2 any1 else's opinions!
Oh well you lose out!
'For god's sake people, go out and get yourselves some lives'
And by the way I have a life- I have friends, I go outside I see the sunshine and I watch the news- maybe you should also go and get informed before you post anymore bullshit points!
much appreciated xMistybluex

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Evil Dead- again your points are ludicrous
'So John Gacy who dedicated his life to making children happy could savagely kill numerous people, but by your reasoning Michael Jackson could not molest a child (well, multiple children have already come forth) because he was so good to kids and gave to charities? You lack in logic and common sense'
I lack in logic and common sense- you have again compared Michael Jackson to a crazy clown which is a point I have already replied to. John Gacy was a clown by occupation only. IT WAS HIS JOB. He did it for the money. He didn't like kids or even people in general- he liked to kill them!
Besides you keep trying to twist my points, I never said that he COULD not molest a child, of course he is capable of it- every human has the ability TO do it but I just don't believe that he WOULD do it. Mj gave to people out of the kindness of his heart and therefore I believe that he would not molest a child, of course I believe that he could have done it but it is just unlikely- you are obviously 2 narrow-minded to even suspect that he might be innocent!

'What you are saying is that people who have a good public image entertaining children can kill numerous people but they are not capable of molesting children. Your argument is completely inane.'

This is not at all my argument, you are creating a sterotype that all entertainers are probably child molesterers- YOU'RE CRAZY!
and please next time back your arguments up with some valid fact- otherwise they are completely void!

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Let me take a quick poll here:

How many people reading this thread have ever been accused of child molestation?

Of those people accused, how many were really innocent?

How many people reading this thread have ever been accused of child molestation multiple times by multiple parties?

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I'm going to have to go out on a limb here and say the answer to those is probably 0.


Sure Mistyblue and everybody else who's defending him.......Jackson may be innocent. He has not yet been proven guilty in a court of law. You are very correct on that point. You must look at it from everybody else's point of view. This is not a one time occurance. This has all happened before. Have you ever been accused of child molestation? Probably not. The chances of being wrongly accused of child molestation is remote. This does not happen all that often. When the very same person keeps getting accused of a crime time and time again......by different people at different times, a pattern starts to form.

If Jackson is innocent, he could have cleared this up a long time ago. He could have went to trial and proved he was innocent in front of the whole world. He chose not to. The man chose to pay millions of dollars to the boy so he would not have to go to trial. I know you love Michael Jackson and all but you honestly have to realize that this is not the act of a innocent man. Innocent people don't go throwing around millions of dollars to accusers so they won't have to go to trial and prove they are innocent to the whole world. This strongly suggests guilt.........for the sole reason that he did not want to go to trial.

If I'm accused of child molestation.........I want to go to trial. I want to show my family and my friends that I'm innocent. I want a chance to get on the stand and tell the world that all the accusations are a crock of shit.

If the man was innocent........why would he be afraid to show the whole world that he was innocent? He wouldn't. He would jump at the chance to redeem his reputation......to clear his name once and for all. He would not pay millions of dollars to the very person accusing him of the crime, the person ruining his reputation..........he would say, "screw you, I'm not giving you any money.....we're going to court and I'll show the whole world I'm innocent and you are nothing but a liar"........

Nothing about the man's actions leads to the conclusion that he is innocent. He acts as though he is guilty........so people think he is guilty.

He was accused of child molestation...........
He had the chance to go to trial and clear his name........but instead paid the accuser millions of dollars to be quiet about it.......
He is then accused of child molestation a decade later by a different accuser..........

We don't know for certain that he is guilty but what there points to him being innocent?


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i agree with evil dead, completely.


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I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK BOUT MJ. HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH CHILDREN is definately creepy. there is alot of evidence for him, and alot against him. but really i have to agree with the people who r trying to get him arrested. i mean i no he had a rough childhood and that he was shoved into the lime light. he is probably trying to re live his child hood. and the sleepovers are probably the re living of his child hood sleepovers which he never had. but then again he is probably just a sick old man. and the people who r defending him, think how weird youll feel if the police find evidence that not even you can argue with. u both make good point but i have to agree with opposition. mj is a creepy old man. wacko jacko, it does exactly what it says on the tin thumb down wacko

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OK I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD JUST CALM DOWN ABIT. ;-)
Lets just wait and see what happens, i don't think everyone should condemn Jacko guilty yet. We'll see if his guilty or innocent in the court of law. I think thats fair.....right?! But why have the DA delayed the charges three times already?! blink

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evil dead- the thing you seem to find the most difficult to understand is why he would pay off the familys if he was innocent.

Maybe it's because he didn't want to go to trial- he was afraid to go to court and stand before a judge and be treated like a guilty man.

Besides innocent men are wronglyfully accused and serve time for crimes they didn't even commit every day!

And if he is innocent, the fate of his life is in the jury's hands and so if you could avoid taking that risk of going to jail- wouldn't you?
The few million dollars he payed to the familys was like pocket change to him!

Also, what self-respecting parent would choose compensation over justice for that act of gross indecency that they claim Mj did to their child?

They trusted him and he molested their child and then tried to bribe them to keep quiet! I would make sure he served time for that as well!
That's why I think that there is something suspicious about those previous accusation- the familys backed down 2 quickly.

I think that the family is just trying to squeeze every cent out of him that they can get! Haven't you read all of the articles saying how crazy the mother is!

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xactly. if mj had molested me i would have never accepted n e sort of money. i would bring the sick bastar% down.in whatever way i could, and read stevens post YA;LL!!!!!!!!!!!!


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the problem with this case is that when the kid says mj molested him the family went 2 two civil lawyers first. i mean for heavenz sake when u get molested u go straight to the police. they say that the kid didnt wanna tel it earlier, well tell me something, do u think the kid can keep a thing 2 himself for 1 day if someone molested him. the kid would physically change and would b shaking. its just insane. i mean the date in which they say mj molested him was april. i mean WTF? its been seven months. its annoying it really is


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