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Who exactly is Palpatine? (theories welcome)
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yerssot
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no, HE was the one who called it coruscant, imperial city (as far as I understand it) is the center of the power of the emperor on coruscant

Zahn had to ask permission to name the planet and such (cause it was going to be used in the PT)

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I'm sorry man, but you're wrong on this one. The name Lucas gave it was Imperial Center. Coruscant came out of the EU. This is well documented elsewhere.

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Sorry, wasn't GL's original name for the Imperial Centre Had Abaddon?


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Possibly. Either way, it wasn't Coruscant.

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Ah, here we are. I spelt it wrong, and my use of the word 'original' is also suspect. From the OS:

"The earliest incarnation of Coruscant appeared in the rough draft scripts of Star Wars, when the Imperial capital world was known as Alderaan. Subsequent rewrites briefly changed its name to Granicus before dropping it from the A New Hope storyline altogether.
The Imperial capital world was resurrected in the draft scripts for Return of the Jedi, this time as Had Abbadon. The script described a city-covered planet plagued by pollution and home to the Emperor's throne. Practical considerations of realizing this planet on screen, as well as the evolving storyline of Episode VI, resulted in the capital world again being abandoned.

Author Timothy Zahn gave Coruscant its name in his 1991 novel, Heir to the Empire. When it came time to finally unveil the galactic capital on the big screen in the revamped ending of the Return of the Jedi Special Edition release, Lucas adopted the name Coruscant."


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I stand corrected

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i think ush is right. i have heard the name "had abbadon" before.


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abbadon is the leader of the chaos space marines in war hammer 40k, thats what the name is most known from. maby thats where you heard it. any 40k ppl here?

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nah, i heard it as a reference to star wars.


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40k.....warhammer 40,000? hell yeah!!!! it rox hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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40k kicks ass, but that's off topic so let's not start. smile

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Well, yes, as posted above, it was the name of the Imperial homeworld in the early ROTJ drafts.


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homer simpson says had abbodon when he is raving like a lunatic in "The Shinning" episode of tree house of horrors. as for he name debate, I thought it was called coruscant under the republic, but the empire changed the name of the planet to imperial city. BTW, an Idea i'd like to throw out. the december issue of insider said that yoda new about the law of two because the jedi discovered bane's writings and may have even killed off a master and apprentice (or so they thought) shortly after Lord Kaan's sith insurection. based on some spoilers about palpatine's appearance in episode 3, do any of you think it's possible that he is several hundred years old and maybe only a fifth or sixth generation sith after bane?


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just a question....is Sidious the "jedi" who ordered the clone army to be made? and is he the 'jedi' who deleted the archive files? did he have anything to do with the death of master cipher dias (spelling?) Somewhere in there has Sidious been playing the part of a jedi too?

I should say too that I'm new to this forum and if these questions have been discussed before and flamed then....(runs and hides).


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it was either dooku or some dark jedi in the temple, I doubt it could have been sidious in the temple. I also think sifo-dyas died prior to episode 1 in some unrelated incident


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yeah cool I guess they never really pointed to a time line in where the info in the archive was erased. I also heard, although I guess it would have to be EU but kinda fits in this thread, that Sidious gets into the cloning somwhere along the line. After we see him killed in RotJ his "spirit" travels into another clone and he kicks on a bit. Might tie in with the cloners from ep2 or at least tie Sidious to them a little more.


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i personaly don't buy the cloning crap. I just htink he is more powerful than any being in the force


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except anakin


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Nah, Anakin's not as powerful as Sidious. Why do you think he needed Luke in order to destroy the Emperor?

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he needed luke to remind him of his true purpose and self, you will see in episode 3 that anakin is more powerful


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