Jedi> like sifer said "What is real? How do you define Real?".
those who don't know the truth can't choose wheter their want to stay in or not, but that's the point of revolutions. Now they will be presented with the truth, and they will truly have a choice. It's a LIE for those who know, but for them it's life.
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JediHDM>the EASY way out is to take the blue pill, which should probably explain to me right there why people would choose it rather than the red pill...people would rather live in comfort and luxury than work for a living..
I would definitely choose truth....no matter how painful it can be! Once u know ur living a lie, how can u stay that way? I wouldn't want to take the blue pill!(please log in to view the image)
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Sith> If you choose to be reinserted or choose the blue pill what are the reasons? Too scared to face the truth? Tired of eating the same goo everyday? Heck, jack into the Matrix or the construct and have a steak if you want.
Is the quality of FOOD that important to you? Fame? Luxury?
The ONLY people excused (and we’re not discussing them actually) are those who are NEVER given a choice. The 99 % who mindlessly accept the slavery of the SYSTEM. You both “slave” for your wage and for the machines.
Isn’t the truth word DYING for??
Your friends and family in the Matrix are not real. That’s the point.
Sifer> The choice ONLY exists on a near subconscious level. That’s the entire paradox of the Matrix. EVEN if you choose to reject the program on a near subconscious level, you are NOT automatically freed (until now in the Movie Chronology).
So the Matrix is indeed a lie. It’s a “dream” pulled down over my eyes to blind me from the truth, coppertop.
Lag> No, why should it be? Being born into poverty is the fate most people face in this world we live in today (may explain why so many Zionists are not white males ). They didn’t CHOSE to be born into a life with starvation. Why would it for them be cowardice to chose the red pill?
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"I just thought you were a guy."
"... Most guys do."
This debate is flying in several different directions.
The original question dealt with re-insertion into the Matrix. (Me, NO never).
Would you chose re-insertion if it promised you wealth, fortune, and fame? Better looks? Popularity? (Me: No way).
Then there’s the question of the red/blue pill. (Me, red pill).
You could go further an ask: Let’s say you never HEARD of the Matrix Movies. You wouldn’t KNOW what to expect. You wouldn’t KNOW you could learn “kewl kung-fu an kick some agent ass” (rolls eyes). (Me: OUT! Red pill).
As far as the people who’re never given a choice. Who accepts the programming. Well, they do not KNOW better. That’s the not the topic here. One of the themes of the Matrix is to DARE question the system, life, the way things are, the way we live our lives, and whether or not the system can tell us WHO we are.
Why do some people choose to drug themselves to oblivion? Why do some people chose to live their lives in computer-games? WHY – do we, humans, lie?
__________________ "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
-Voltaire
"That includes ruining Halloween because someone swallowed a Bible."
"I just thought you were a guy."
"... Most guys do."
Omega> i never said the I want to stay, or for that matter, choose to be reinserted, i prefer the harsh truth, ,i don't wanna be slave.. ever, all i'm saying that for those who don't know the truth, the matrix it's real life, and it's no a luxury like some say, you won't always be rich, famous inside the matrix, you could also be a bump, and that's life, whether is real or not.
back to the topic.. i'd always choose the red pill, and i'd stay in the real world
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Dec 1st, 2003 02:42 PM
). They didn’t CHOSE to be born into a life with starvation. Why would it for them be cowardice to chose the red pill?
