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Obi-Wan as Ben
I was watching ANH last night and rememered that Obi-Wan tells Luke that he hasn't gone by OB1 since before he was born. Does that mean the name changes before Luke and Leia are born? It would appear so. And another thing I noticed is Vader says to OB1 "You should have not returned." Does this mean that Anakin/Vader knew of OB1 going into hiding and just didn't care because he knew OB1 wouldn't become involved?
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Nov 7th, 2000 12:11 AM |
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In answer to your second point, maybe Anakin/Vader can not bring himself to kill Obi Wan ("There is still goo in him" Luke says) and instead sends him intio an excile of sorts and tells the Emporer he is dead?
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Nov 7th, 2000 03:44 AM |
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theEvilJedi
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Here's a thought.Why would Obi-Wan be called Old Ben when he is only 35 when the twins are born?
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Nov 7th, 2000 05:03 AM |
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Darth Daft
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Yes thats very possible. I could imagine Vader doing that.
And as for the name-changing thing, yes, its likely that Obi-Wan will mention his decision to change his name during Episode 3.
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Nov 7th, 2000 05:03 AM |
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Obi Wan Kenobi is a hero of the Clone Wars, whilst Ben Kenobi is a recluse living out near the Dune Seas of Tatooine. The name change is obviosly part of obtaining a level of anonimity.
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Nov 8th, 2000 05:00 AM |
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Darth Daft
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But I wonder why he changed Obi-Wan to Ben instead of changing Kenobi to something else? Surely it would be harder for the Empire to find him if his surname was different. Thats how it would be here on Earth. If you wanted to hide from someone you wouldn't change from John Smith to Bob Smith would you?
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Nov 8th, 2000 05:07 AM |
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Your analogy kinda destroys your question. Smith is by far one of the most prevelant names in the UK and possibly a few othe rplaces as well. Maybe Kenobi is the same. Unlikely but possible.
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Nov 8th, 2000 03:01 PM |
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Darth Daft
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Yeah it was just an example I used though. Forget I said Smith then. How about Christadooloo?  Thats the surname of someone I know.
I guess you could be right about Kenobi being a common surname though. Antilles is, so Lucas might make a point that Kenobi is too.
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Nov 9th, 2000 05:24 AM |
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I don't think Kenobi is a common name...Do you really think there's some grand reason why he changed his name...I think Ben's just a nickname...maybe Anakin even gave it to him..
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Nov 9th, 2000 06:24 PM |
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Hey, DD I hope you're not taking the mickey out of my moms maiden name!!!!!
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Nov 9th, 2000 09:15 PM |
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Hmmmmm, that's the most bizarre name I think I've (maybe) ever heard...
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Nov 12th, 2000 09:45 AM |
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Ratcat
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Yeah DD, I can see your point. Hand's up who believes this will NEVER be addressed by Lucas?
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Nov 12th, 2000 06:48 PM |
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Darth Daft
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<Darth Daft raises his hand>
And for those who were wondering, Christadooloo is a Greek name.
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Nov 13th, 2000 04:14 AM |
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Make me wrong then, I was thinking it would have African origins.
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Nov 13th, 2000 04:26 PM |
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If it's Greek, it was probably once spelled as Christadoulou. Then it's not that weird anymore.
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Nov 13th, 2000 05:31 PM |
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Well, it's all greek to me, <Falls of chair>
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Nov 13th, 2000 06:50 PM |
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*helps RC back on his chair*
There, I hope you didn't hurt yourself. You have got to be more careful.
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Nov 13th, 2000 07:52 PM |
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Thank you. <Dusts himself off>
Anyway, back to the plot...
Obi Wan/Ben must have stayed on Tatooine to watch over Luke from afr, if he's been running from vader he would have gone much further. Tatooine may be in the outer rims but it's by no means the remotest place in the galaxy.
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Nov 13th, 2000 08:11 PM |
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Well, there was a theory that Vader must have hated Tatooine so much, because of his past and maybe his mother dying, that Tatooine would be the last place he'd go. Personally at least. Makes sense. Sort of..
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Nov 13th, 2000 08:19 PM |
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Hmmm, I guess.
On the name changing front why let Luke keep his name? He was just a kid, why not give him the name Lars?
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Nov 13th, 2000 08:23 PM |
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