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Yeah, I think that ultimately Obi Wan would have taken Luke to tatooine, the fact that he got slice merely made it more imprtant that he go there.
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To Tatooine? Isn't that where they came from? Unless you mean Dagobah. If so, it does make sense.
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But is it true that he wasn't originally going to do this? It was Alec Guiness who suggested to GL that Obi-Wan should die in ANH (obviously because Alec hated the part so much) and so if GL had not have done this he wouldn't have needed to use Yoda. So would Obi-Wan still be prepared to train him completely?
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Nov 22nd, 2000 04:20 AM |
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Yeah, well spotted queeg. Must remember to engage brain before activating fingers.
DD,
There is a story that this did happen. But then OB1 comes back, albeit briefly, in BOTH sequals.
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Nov 22nd, 2000 04:38 AM |
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I see. Thanx Ratcat. But I still wonder if Obi-Wan really could have managed without Yoda's help (and if he hadn't have died on the Deathstar of course). Won't ever be answered, but still its a pondering thought when you think of the differences between Obi-Wan and Yoda's teaching methods.
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Nov 22nd, 2000 05:02 AM |
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I think Yoda's are much closer to the "true Jedi teachings"
OB1 basically took his own life to perpetuate the Jedi through Luke. from a certain point of view!!!
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Nov 22nd, 2000 05:05 AM |
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Do you think Obi-Wan's teaching methods will be similar in Episode 2 to what he is like with Luke in ANH?
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Nov 22nd, 2000 05:19 AM |
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Not sure, with Yoda there to guide him he should stick to the "script" a bit better but in ANH he must have been very rusty, plus he hardly got to teach Luke anything apart from defending against a remote.
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Nov 22nd, 2000 05:23 AM |
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I know but he still gave off this certain feeling
when he explained to Luke how to use the Force. I just wonder if Ewan McGregor could pull that off in the same way.
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Nov 22nd, 2000 05:38 AM |
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He's a good actor and I know that he said in an interview that he has spent o lot of time watching the Alec Guines performance from ANH to get the nuance.
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Nov 22nd, 2000 05:44 AM |
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Yeah I agree he is a great actor, but I wasn't quite impressed by his accent. I know it's probably hard for a Scottish guy to pull it off just right, but it sounded too fake and over-rehearsed to me. Not relaxed enough if you know what I mean.
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Nov 22nd, 2000 05:52 AM |
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didn't he die??
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Nov 22nd, 2000 09:25 AM |
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Huh?
About OB1's accent, I agree with it sounding not too great. But then again, a lot of dialogue was very "acted" as well, if you know what I mean. I felt Neeson's delivery of lines wasn't all that great either. I think it's a directing thing and I sure hope GL does a better job this time. Also to make his actors feel more comfortable and aware of what they are playing.
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Nov 22nd, 2000 02:49 PM |
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JM, if you're referring to Alec Guiness then yes, he did die a short time ago in August.
I agree Queeq, many of the actors seemed to just sound like they were reading lines off the paper, especially Captain Panaka. Queen Amidala's strange accent was very poor and not a wise decision by GL if you ask me. I hope she just sounds normal in the next 2 films.
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Nov 23rd, 2000 01:44 AM |
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Strangely enough, however odd I found Amidala's accent, I never really mind it. The switching between a formal, somewhat British sounding, tone of voice vs. "normal" American was kinda fun. But then again, GL could have gone for the tone of voice Carrie Fisher had in ANH as Leia.
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Natalie said something in an intervuiew recenbtly about *that* voice and how it would not be present in the new film, more like her normal voice.
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Nov 23rd, 2000 04:29 AM |
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Yeah I heard that too, only it was at Supershadow.com so I decided not to mention it.
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queens accent
hey gang! I'm glad someone mentioned the accent! this is all done for a reason...the accent you are talking about is actually an idea that is used in ANH by princess Leia. If you notice, it's kind of her 'leader' or royaly voice.
I read something about this in a history book once that leaders of royalty often use this when addressing a crowd or adversary...
I'm not clear why, but i think GL was showing how they put on their 'big girl' voice or 'leader voice' if you will. Listen to Leia in ANH...she does it too! at times, she will drop the accent...
I wish I knew more about it, but it has somthing to do with actient customs from our own history....
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Nov 23rd, 2000 11:21 AM |
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Re: queens accent
Very true XC, In ANH & TPM it's almost a very bad British accent as i that will make them sound more regal (How 1970's is that!!!) but in ESB and ROTJ leia slips back to a more Amaerican accent, though still not her own , normal drawl.
DD, I actually got that from a recent interview in the britsi Sunday Times, probably one of the most reputable British newspapers.
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Re: queens accent
But Carrie Fisher was better at it than Natalie Portman I think.
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