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The clone wars, oh do try to keep up. smile

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Sorry, massa.

I know we're talking about Clone Wars, but what exactly are we unraveling that Lucas is supposed to know.or was that more of that hidden cynical humour of yours. You'll have to excuse me, someone appropraitely nicknamed me queeq the Gullible.

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Touche!

Well basically how, when, where, why and who.

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But what are we on to? Or did I miss something again?

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I don't know, I'm kind of a little lost now.

I think we've got to.

Clone Wars won't be called the clone wars in itially.
They start in Episode-II at some point but are rather small to begin.
They escalate and the Jedi become involved towards the end of EpII.

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Okay, never mind then.

I agree with things we have so far. Let's go from there.

*shakes head*

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OK, time to get DEFINATIVE!!!

In the new Episode-II feature on Original Trilogy re-re-release George Lucas states that the Clone Wars start in EPISODE-II and that Anakin finally turns to the darkside in EPISODE-III.

I guess that's pretty conclusive.

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Yep. Read that. It's pretty much what the clever ones among us have been saying all along. Ep2 shows how the Clone Wars get started. Most of it will probably take place between episodes. This way Anakin can show what a great hero he is and whu he is the greatest star fighter pilot that ever lived. And THAT is we he cannot turn until Ep3. Thank you, George Lucas, for clearing that up.

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Do you think we will even see the Clone Wars end? Perhaps they continue after Episode 3 and dont finish until maybe 10 years in between Ep 3 and 4.


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We may do, I believe that it is the clone ways that Palpatine uses as his justification for the Storm troopers. Ironic huh?

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I think that we will see the Clone Wars end. They will obviously start in Episode II and I think end at the beginning of Episode III, Anakin will be some big hero that ends the war and his head becomes big, and he thinks OB1 is jealous or something, creating a further rift between them.

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Wasn't the a quote from Rick McCallum about Anakins fall being the result of what happens when someopne thinks they are better than they really are?

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I think we will see the Clone Wars end as well. And that quote can refer to things happening during the wars. something will happen that will cause a rift between OB1 and Anakin. If this quote refers to OB1 then I have grave doubts about his status as hero in the saga, though. Won't he be the ultimate loser then?

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Yay! Anakin goes in with all the bravado like "Hey, I'm the chosen one, I can't die, there's a prophesy you know."

Obi Wan is all like "Hey, chill Ani, don't be such a hot head."

Ani comes back with "Shove it you hasbeen, I'm gona stick my saber up your..."

Well, you get the idea.

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You obviously had a peek into the new script. Do you know more? At least the dialogue has improved smile

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I agree with this Anakin thing. It is his own goodness that makes him bad if you get what I mean. He is TOO good and he takes advantages of his powers by using the Force for evil.


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No, I don't get that. I can imagine him being very good in the sense that he is a very good pilot and a great Jedi. But I believe he gets disappointed in people, like Jedi, his master, Padme. And probably not always justified. His desires for goodness and justice may bring him to the point that he wants revenge for what injustice has been done unto him. He is not seeing things straight, though. His anger will blind him.

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Hmmm...yes, possibly. What I meant was that Anakin is so good that it makes him big-headed and egostatical. He believes he is to good to turn to the Dark Side and so he is not careful with the joices he makes, believing that nothing bad can happen to him because he is the Chosen One. However, he doesn't think before he makes decisions and this ultimately leads to him doing wrong things and eventually fighting Obi-Wan and joining Palpatine.


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DD, I think queeg has a point.

Also though I think that there may even be some relation to his past and the way he left Tatooine.

What I mean is that telling a 10 year old he's the "Chosen One" is bound to make him a little big headed. Nopw I canb't recall a scene where it is mentioned to him directly in TPM, but I sure bet it comes up sometime in his training.

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I agree. They should just treat him like a normal Jedi and just try to forget that he's the Chosen One. That way, destiny may have taken place easily coz Anakin wouldn't have become so over-confident with his powers.


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