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queeq
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He was too green as a puppet in TPM as well, much greener than in ESB. That was the idea: a younger Yoda.


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how on gods earth is that not sarcasm by ob1, trust me thats sarcasm at the end of the trailer. good job, - great line!


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Yoda looks greatsmile


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I think Yoda should stay a puppet.


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I think CGI is cool, and the Characters GL presented in the films are cool too. They are better than puppets, their mouths actually SHOWS what they are saying, their eyes glows with life and deep, not like glass painted.

The change of colors of the skins are 'bout the age (Watto is more yellow, he is older and their skin is rotten (PUAJJJJ).

I still think that the cgi and puppets are so hard to compare, because are from diffrent ages of cinema.

I still enjoy Muppets Tonite!!!!
big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin

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Muppets tonight, nice!laughing out loud

I disagree though. At the very least, Lucas should have kept Yoda the same.


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He can't keep Yoda the same because Yoda Is NOT the same. He is 32 years Younger in TPM, and 10 years older than that in AOTC
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Yeah, but then it shouldn't have been a puppet in TPM.

Yoda seemed to be the one character who stayed the same throughout, now that is gone.sad


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Well, I can't figure why he is a Puppet in TPM.

Put your hand in your heart... Did you really BELIEVED the crossed eyes character "YODA" in TPM??????

I see the movie over and over and still there is two things that I really dislike: the overacted impersonation of Mace Windu (i loved SLJackson in every other movie, but hated on TPM) and the puppet of yoda!!!!

...WELL, i've said it!!! I'm Sorry!!!

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Well, that's your opinion, then.

I beleive that Yoda should stay a puppet. Lucas should give his fans that one at least.

I even still think most of his scenes will be the puppet. We've only seen less that 2 minutes of a 2 hour + movie. Yoda will be a puppet.


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Yeah, To, you're right. Maybe the shoots where the whole body is compromised are CGI, and others (in DVD trailer, a shot on JC, with Yoda sitting in a "chair" while Mace Speaks, and similars) we still have a puppet, but i still think in the lips movement that CGI gives, that puppet can't.
Or maybe Mr Lucas is very pleased with ILM's cgi, and loose perspective.

A confession: the first time i saw the trailer, i get a discussion with a friend, cause I see Yoda very much like in ESB, and he stands that is CGI. Then, with a better copy of trailer (and the time to see it step by step again and again I realized it IS cgi!

So, for me, it isn't so bad. Its a technical discussion if he is CGI or puppet. The tricky part will be when we were seated in darkness on a theatre on may 2002 and BELIEVE this characters, forgetting if they are bone and flesh, rubber and denim, bits & bytes, etc!!!!

(I really hope this ahappen!!)

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Yeah, you're right.

But I wish Lucas would at least keep Yoda. He is, in a way, the one constant character who doesn't completely change between trillogies!


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Sand Person you should read the posts again., I think EVERYONE agrees that Obi-Wans line at the end of the trailer was sarcasm.

I think the CGI Yoda looks great now. But I'd still prefer him to be a puppet in every episode.

The same with R2. I can tell which shots he was CGI in TPM. It distarcts me from what's going on in the scene because I think "R2 looks different from normal".

A Yoda puppet should be used for close ups at least.


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yeah! even I think it's sarcasm!

and I still stick to my point (and if you read queeqs reply that is what's bothering me about yoda!)

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Well okay, you can be bothered. I like that he had more pronounced expressions really. The puppet always looks a little fake too.


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yeah that also, but still not liking the cgi here!

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If you hate CGI so much, better not watch AOTC then. There's gonna be a lot of it.


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yeah, but Watto didn't bothered me at all!

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Very strange.


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that was because his skin wasn't that bad done (was good actually)

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