Question about Sauron
Hello everyone
There's been a lingering question through my head about what Sauron really is, can someone answer that?
Is he not a powerful being that just needs something to make his power generate through, that's why he created the rings of power?
For those who will answer, thanks a bunch.
*~Kit~*
Originally a Maia of Aulë's people, Sauron was early corrupted by Melkor and became his most trusted lieutenant. In the Wars of Beleriand, Sauron was the most feared of Morgoth's servants, but after the War of Wrath and the expulsion of the first Dark Lord, Sauron rose to become the greatest enemy of Elves and Men in the Second and Third Ages.
Just in case you don't know what a maia is. Of the many spirits that descended into Arda at its beginning, those of lesser stature than the Valar, though they were still powerful, were known as Maiar.
He's an "angel," (an ainur) one of the lower level ones (of two mentioned "levels", a maia,) to put it in laymans terms. I do believe that the Balrogs are also maia, as well as Shelob's ancenstry. Gandalf and Saruman are also maiar btw, but of a different sort with limits to their powers (probably solely voluntary, as Saruman clearly abuses and uses his power to it's fullest.)
well in the second age sauron wanted to rule all the free peoples of middle earth. well he knew that he could never rule over the elves so he came up with a plan. he would give rings of power to all the races and then make a master ring to rule over all the others, but the 3 elven rings were so powerful that he had to put a lot of his power into his own ring to dominate those three. well once he had done so the elves realized what he did and went to war over it. when the ring was originally taken from sauron the elves and men were very powerful and were able to contend with saurons strength. but in aragorns time men and elves were far less powerful and if sauron retook the ring, no one would be strong enough to stand against him. hopefully that helps.
Originally posted by nephalim27
Umm...Sauron wore it, it gave him most of it's power that way. Then he was defeated and it was taken from him. Where during this should it have been at the bottom of Barad-Dur?
Oh gawd my grammer in that last post was absolutely abysmal. Forget what I said. Forging a ring of power and pouring all your hate and what not into it is a bad idea
if you need info on sauron, why not ask the man himself 😄
Sauron
The Second Dark Lord
Timeline:
Dates: In Middle-earth for many thousands of years before the beginning of the First Age, banished 25 March III 3019 (Endured at least 16,000 years, and probably much longer)
Race: Ainur
Division: Maiar of Aulë
Other Names: Annatar, Gorthaur
Titles: The Black Hand, The Dark Lord, The Dark Power, Lord of Gifts, Lord of Mordor, The Lord of the Rings, The Necromancer, The Red Eye, The Ring-maker, The Sorcerer
Meaning: 'The Abhorred'1
Pronunciation: sowro'n ('ow' as in 'now'😉
"Of old there was Sauron the Maia."
Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age
Originally a Maia of Aulë's people, Sauron was early corrupted by Melkor and became his most trusted lieutenant. In the Wars of Beleriand, Sauron was the most feared of Morgoth's servants, but after the War of Wrath and the expulsion of the first Dark Lord, Sauron rose to become the greatest enemy of Elves and Men in the Second and Third Ages.
Sauron's History Before the First Age
Sauron was one of the mightiest (perhaps the mightiest) of the Maiar, and in the beginning of days he served Aulë the Smith. From Aulë he learnt much of forging and making, knowledge that he would make use of many thousands of years later when he built the Barad-dûr and forged the One Ring.
In the earliest days, Melkor seduced Sauron and took him into his own service, and Sauron became the greatest and most trusted of his followers. While Utumno still stood in the dark north of the world, Sauron was given command of his lesser fortress of Angband. At length, the Valar assaulted Melkor and took him in chains back to Valinor, but Sauron escaped, and remained in Middle-earth.
Sauron in the First Age
While Melkor was captive in Aman, Angband was made ready for his return, and it must be assumed that Sauron had a large part in this work. After the Darkening of Valinor, Melkor returned indeed to Middle-earth, and took up his abode in Angband. Soon after, he travelled for a while into the eastern lands to seek the newly-awakened Men leaving Sauron in command of his forces once again.
Though Sauron doubtless continued his evil works in the service of his lord, we hear nothing of these for many centuries after the return of Morgoth, until the days after the Dagor Bragollach. For two years after the Dagor Bragollach itself, Finrod's tower of Minas Tirith had guarded the Pass of Sirion against Morgoth's forces. In 457 (First Age), Sauron himself came against the tower; he cast a spell of fear upon the Elves who held it, and they were slain or fled back to Finrod in Nargothrond.
Sauron then took Minas Tirith to dwell in, and watched the Pass of Sirion himself from its topmost tower. The isle on which it stood, which had been called Tol Sirion, was renamed Tol-in-Gaurhoth, the Isle of Werewolves.
After the Dagor Bragollach, the last remnant of the House of Bëor became a scattered people. Barahir, its lord, took shelter in the uplands of Dorthonion at Tarn Aeluin with his son Beren and eleven others and was hidden for a while from Morgoth. Sauron was sent to find and destroy this desperate band of outlaws. This he did by capturing Gorlim, one of Barahir's followers, and using his sorcery he discovered the outlaws' camp, and destroyed all of Barahir's band but his son Beren.
Beren himself fled southwards through the treacherous paths of the Ered Gorgoroth, and Sauron's army of werewolves failed to capture him. Fate drove Beren into Sauron's hands eventually, though: some years later as he travelled northward on the Quest of the Silmaril, Sauron captured him with Finrod and their companions and imprisoned them in Tol-in-Gaurhoth.
Sauron knew nothing of Beren's quest; sensing some danger to himself or his master, he sent wolves out throughout the lands of the Elves, and meanwhile he flung Beren, Finrod and their companions into a deep pit. There they were devoured one after the other by one of his werewolves, and eventually all were lost but Beren. As the werewolf slew Finrod, though, Lúthien came upon Sauron's Isle with Huan, the Hound of Valinor. Sauron sent wolf after wolf to investigate Lúthien's song, and each was slain in turn by Huan. At last, he sent Draugluin, the mightiest wolf that had then lived, and he too was mortally wounded by Huan, but with his dying breath he returned to Sauron and warned him of the danger.
So Sauron went himself to one of his greatest defeats. He took the form known as Wolf-Sauron, the shape of a mighty werewolf, and went out to meet his foes. First, he attacked Lúthien, but under her enchantment he stumbled, and Huan sprang upon him. Though he shifted shape and struggled, he could not escape; at last he yielded the tower to Lúthien,and Huan released him. He fled eastward then to Dorthonion, where he dwelt in the dark pine forests of Taur-nu-Fuin.
Sauron in the Second Age
After the War of Wrath and the defeat of his master Morgoth, Sauron fled for a time into the east of the world.2 A period of one thousand years followed in which Sauron was not seen in the west of Middle-earth. As the first millennium of the Second Age turned, Sauron came back. He took the fenced and mountainous land of Mordor, and there began building his mighty Dark Tower of Barad-dûr.
The beginning of Sauron's reign as Dark Lord can be dated from this time: he set himself no less a goal than the conquest of Middle-earth, and perhaps even of Númenor itself.
For six hundred years, he pursued a dual strategy. In the guise of Annatar, the Lord of Gifts, he tutored the Elves of Eregion, teaching them the secret things that only a Maia of Aulë's people could know. From his lore, the Rings of Power were forged, but while he worked with the Elves, he continued the fortification of Mordor to make it an unassailable stronghold.
In the fire-mountain of Orodruin, he secretly forged the One Ring. This was to be the first stroke in his conquest of the west - a device by which he could know, and control, the thoughts of the bearers of the other Rings. His plan failed, though: the Elves became aware of his malevolent presence, and took off their Rings.
Angered by this setback, Sauron loosed the hordes of Mordor, six hundred years in the building, and overran Eriador, destroying the land of Eregion where the Rings were made. The Elves called on Númenor for aid, though, and the army of Tar-Minastir put Sauron's forces to rout. After this reverse, Sauron sought instead to build power in the eastern countries, and left the Westlands in peace for many centuries.
When Ar-Pharazôn usurped the throne of Númenor in 3255 (Second Age), he saw Sauron's growing eastern kingdom as a threat. Building and equipping a mighty fleet, he sailed for Middle-earth, and landed at Umbar, to the south of the Mouths of Anduin. Ar-Pharazôn demanded that Sauron submit to his authority and, seeing that the might of the Númenóreans far outstripped his own, Sauron agreed.
The Shapes of Sauron
All of the Ainur had the ability to change their form, but none held so many different shapes as Sauron. During the First Age, his accustomed form seems to have been that of a dark sorceror, commanding a host of evil things, and especially werewolves and their kind. He shifted form many times in his existence, though, especially during his duel with Huan; among the shapes he wore were:• Wolf-Sauron. This was the monstrous wolf-shape he chose when he went forth from his fortress on Tol-in-Gaurhoth to battle with Huan.
• During the battle, he changed his form to that of a serpent in his struggles to escape.
• Finally, after Huan released him, he became a great vampire, and fled into the east, 'dripping blood from his throat upon the trees'3.
Lol, thanks for the info guys, I was really confused about that. Thanks Turin, Sauron, TrixStar, Nephalim, and others. Um...Except, manny...I'm not quite sure what you were trying to do...
why dosen't aragon just his finger off again done, then make sure to through the ring in after
Um...to answer your question...Sauron doesn't even have the ring right now, I don't know what universe you've been livin' in but it ain't Middle-Earth. Sauron has minions, so they can't just fly into Mordor and come out all happy and clean and shiny and the adventure's over, trust me if it was like that, Lord of the Rings would prolly be rated G.
Well what are the odds of aragorn being able to cut the finger off in battle. in the first place Sauron would never go to battle himself unless it was the last possible option such as with the last alliance. second if he did come forth to battle he would probably be much more careful. the movie kind of throws people off. it makes it look like by isuldur cutting the ring off he was defeated, but in the books, he was defeated before the ring was cut off by elendil and gilgalad. the cutting off of the ring being the final blow to his power. in aragorns time there is no warriors of such stature as elendil and gilgalad to battle with sauron.
1 simple answer, read the silmarillion, if its looks to long or your not interested in the main bit just read the last section, it explains basically everything, believe me there are plenty of sources of informtion extending from the main 3 books, i am currently working my way throught the history of middle earth, perhaps the one titled war of the rings in that series could be of assistance
but basically sauron was melkor's (basically the devil or satan) greatest servant and some time gets turned in to a vampire then when melokor is destryoed and the earth sort of gets upp ended in parts sauron reloactes himself, wants to ocntrol everyone and so creates the rings
1 important thing to note is the pronunciation is like that in the movie unlike what i here lots of people saying as
the SAUron is as in sour not saw