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Why should Shmi be Force sensitive. Whilst it is true that some children inherit Jedi traits from there parents, it is obvious that this is not always the case.
The Council seek out potential Jedi, why would they do this if all they had to do was wait until a Jedi spawned a child then just show up to "adopt" the child?
Seems to me that the potential to be a Jedi is as mach a randomness of nature as it is an inheritable trait. The required set of conincidences required may only appear very rarely.
Rememeber also that Jedi numbers are estimated at around 10,000 as far as I can remember, that's not very many in a big galaxy. Vary rare a Jedi is indeed.
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Darth Daft
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Good point. So can animals be force-sensitive too? I'd like to see a sarlacc use a lightsabre.
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Oct 23rd, 2000 11:38 PM |
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Darth Daft
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or a Jawa...
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Oct 25th, 2000 01:07 AM |
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"The force flows through all living beings" so despite Queegs comment, Yes I believe they could have the potential to use the force.
I would imagine a force sensative animal would problem develop force skills out of instinct as they would lack the brain capacity to develop anything of any complex nature.
Back on Topic: The force line could pass down many generations beofre the correct "match up" is found genitically to prodcue a force child.
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Oct 25th, 2000 02:25 AM |
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Darth Daft
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If a Jedi and a non-Jedi can produce someone like Luke then would that mean someone with parents that are BOTH Jedi would be extremely Force-sensitive? As far as I know, not even in the EU have we seen someone who has parents who are both Jedi.
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Oct 25th, 2000 04:49 AM |
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Good point DD, I have always wondered that myself. In the new books Luke and Mara are about to have a child, talk Force power, wow! It would be interesting to see how much force power a child of 2 Jedi would have
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Oct 25th, 2000 04:57 AM |
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Darth Daft
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Yeah especially when one of those Jedi is Luke Skywalker. We could be looking at a seriously powerful young Jedi Knight here.
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Oct 25th, 2000 04:59 AM |
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This could be awesome or then again it could mean that they have a force null child.
Remember, 2 red headed people don't always have a red headed child. All this assumes that an anaology between force inheritance and genetics can be made.
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Oct 25th, 2000 03:31 PM |
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Darth Daft
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Yeah good point. I suppose it depends on what average percentage of sperm carry the midichlorian genetics to the egg.
But then I guess we're never going to find that out.
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Oct 25th, 2000 11:20 PM |
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Darth Daft
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Well it would support the scientific side of the Force that was in TPM when we heard of the midichlorians.
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Oct 26th, 2000 03:56 AM |
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Scientific? Midi-chlorians? *insane laughter*
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Nov 1st, 2000 04:12 AM |
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What?...did you think SW had no science? 
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Nov 1st, 2000 07:38 PM |
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Well, the midi's are hardly to be considered a scientific explanation or approach of the Force. They are merely transmitters of the Force, but that's all. So there's not much science about it, just an announcement of the existence of such bacteria.
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Nov 1st, 2000 11:01 PM |
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Darth Daft
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I wonder why Lucas didn't stay within the more mystical element of the Force. I would have thought it would be obvious that fans would be a little disappointed with the introduction of midichlorians, so I wonder why he didn't make them be...oh, I don't know.....Force energy or something. A Force energy field that surrounds Force-sensitive beings like Anakin.
And Qui-Gon could have said to Obi-Wan over the comlink, "I'm sending you a blood sample. I want an analysis of the energy waves being produced by the blood."
Ok, that sounded silly, but ya know what I mean.
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Nov 2nd, 2000 01:50 AM |
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Gundark
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The midi-chlorian concept confounded me too. I was spoon fed on Ben's "its an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us, it binds the galaxy together". Nothing about midi's there. Seems to be a completely external thing according to Ben. Or maybe he gave Luke "his point of view" again.
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Nov 2nd, 2000 02:50 AM |
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I never liked the midi-thing. As if Lucas tried to find an explanation why Anakin was so strong with the Force and why it was transmitted to offspring. I doubt that was necessary. I doubt anyone would care about that for real, just part of the mystery, I'd say. This kind of explaining is plain boring. Alfred Hitch@#%$ is one of my favourite directors and he hated explaining because it was BORING. He was sure right on that one.
On the other hand, there is the possibility that the midi-thing is a Jedi misunderstanding which proposes the necessity of a Jedi Purge and would give an explanation why the midi's weren't mentioned in the OT. And maybe through the purge they find that it was wrong to depend on the midi's. It would sure help explaining to Luke where he came from. "Your grandpa is a bunch of bacteria". Anyone care to tell him that?
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Nov 2nd, 2000 04:24 AM |
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Darth Daft
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I agree that it's obvious that the reason Lucas introduced the midichlorians is because he needed to find a way to describe just how strong Anakin was with the Force. But like you said, it wasn't nessecary. I think my version (above) would be better and it ties in perfectly with what Ben says about "energy."
Basically, Lucas should have just said that Jedi's cells don't contain midichlorians, but in fact they contain high amounts of energy, which is what gives them their reactions and speed and agility and strength and ability to control the Force.
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Nov 2nd, 2000 05:12 AM |
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I think GL might have needed the midis to set the stage for some plotwork in the upcoming film...I don't want to condem the midi development until I have some evidence that GL WON'T go anywhere with it.
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Nov 2nd, 2000 09:06 AM |
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I hope GL does something more with the midi's. It's the only way he can save the midi-scenes in TPM.
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Nov 2nd, 2000 02:29 PM |
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Darth Daft
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Yes. Although I didn't like the midichlorian idea, it's too late now and so Lucas must continue with it. He can't possibily just leave it in TPM and never have it mentioned in Episode 2 and/or 3. It also may give him a chance to wind around the scientific element of the Force and make them seem more mythical, like the fans would prefer.
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