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dadudemon
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Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
What?


What I said was very straightforward.


Review the anime for a better view of what happened in that blast. You can't see it as well with the manga.


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Who cares what blast is bigger?

The important things are that

a.) A full powered Kyubi will do much more damage

and b.) Pein is one badass mother****er.

Also, in the next arc, Sakura will be crushed by a mountain, Sasuke will be castrated, and Neji will throw a kegger for all the cool kids.


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Who cares what blast is bigger?



We do, obviously.


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The important things are that

a.) A full powered Kyubi will do much more damage

and b.) Pein is one badass mother****er.


True. Wise words.


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KN4 only destroyed a few acres, nowhere near "miles upon miles". - inless you have proof?

Deva Realm Pein destroyed the entire village w/ Chou Shineri Tensai(sp?). Only thing left from the village is the debris pushed off to the side.


Anyways, going by the spoilers, Naruto one shotted one of the Pein bodies already=/


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So, you mean to tell me that if that same attack from the kyuubi was launched from where Pein was, the damage wouldn't be similar? The impact crater could be much deeper.

Of course, that's just all opinion.

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can't wait to see Sasuke's reaction to the destruction of Konoha

also, i want to see what's going on with Killerbee


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Me too. They just sorta left out the whole Kage gathering, and everything else for Pein destroying Konoha. I hope he'll get back to Killer Bee and the Raikage soon before Sasuke take the limelight away from everybody else again.


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Late chapter it seems, i heard it's gonna come out in about 4 hours, if not next week. But we did get spoilers.

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http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/...07755898pg1.jpg

Heh, i wonder why Kishi didnt make Naruto's coat orange..I mean red hardly matches with what Naruto has on already.


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Well Naruto has never had the best sense of style. It sorta fits with his style.


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KN4 only destroyed a few acres, nowhere near "miles upon miles". - inless you have proof?

Deva Realm Pein destroyed the entire village w/ Chou Shineri Tensai(sp?). Only thing left from the village is the debris pushed off to the side.


Anyways, going by the spoilers, Naruto one shotted one of the Pein bodies already=/


The proof is in the anime.


The manga never shows a view of the two shots from a ground level "down the barrel" type look. The anime does.

That's my proof.

Not to mention, Sakura, Mr. Wood, and gay ass whitey were all three shitting their pants.

Also, it destroys the Ultimate triple defense Oro used and it still caused miles upon miles of damage.


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The anime is fallible though.

We see in the manga that it was not miles upon miles of damage.


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The anime is fallible though.

We see in the manga that it was not miles upon miles of damage.


No, we never get to see that it was miles upon miles of damage. The manga never shows a "down the barrel" view of the devastation. The anime does.


We cannot claim that it WASN'T miles upon miles of damage because the manga never shows a perspective in order to see that. All we see is that his blast was split into two and Naruto's blast destroys the ultimate defense technique that was literally of epic level.

However, we can claim with a certain degree that claiming his blast went on for miles and miles. The Anime shows that that is a more accurate claim than saying it doesn't because the manga never shows a perspective to debunk it.


In other words, there's more evidence to support my perspective than yours (or any others) because the manga doesn't contradict me in anyway, but your claims do contradict the anime.


We can argue cannon bullshit, however, there's nothing in the manga for your to back your claims up that it didn't go for miles and miles. In other words, you can't back up an un-back-able claim.





Now, we can meet on middle ground and say that Naruto's blast was more powerful solely because it destroyed Oro's ultimate defense technique and then had plenty of energy to split the blast into two deep paths (in other words, there was plenty left over.) How in the hell would Pain's technique do anything to Oro's ultimate defense other than push it across the ground? All it was was an epic force push. The defense is so massive that it is on scale with Pain's attack (as seen in the manga, the background shows mountains and hills in the same perspective/size). I would say that Pain's attack diameter is a little less than double the height of Oro's ultimate defense gates.)


What would the Earth have done had Naruto's attack been aimed straight at the Earth like Pain's? Would we not see a massive hole in the Earth? Of course, the diameter of that direct Earth blast would be half, a third, or even a forth of the size. However, we should expect an absurdly deep hole in the Earth on a scale approaching miles. We don't know how ultimate Oro's defense is, so it could absurdly dwarf the energy of Pain's attack by hundreds or even thousands of times, or it could be in the scale of tens of times. However, it is quite clear that Naruto's blast contained a significantly more energy than Pain's crushing technique.


Also, it is called "Naruto", so I highly doubt Kishi would power Pain beyond four tails cloak Naruto.


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when the hell is the new chapter coming out???


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when the hell is the new chapter coming out???


Late Thursday, Early Friday.


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It might be out tonight / tommorow as thats what happened last year.

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It might be out tonight / tommorow as thats what happened last year.



I saw some spoilers. It looks like Naruto sees God and God gives him a super power. I know that sounds weird, but I don't know how else to describe the bright being that pulls him up into the clouds.


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Raw is out, we just need to wait for someone to scan/clean/whatever it and put it on onemanga.

And yeah, it was late because of the ****en hoildays.


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Chapter 430: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/430/01/

Quality is a bit bad in places but it's worth it.

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Dumb. I understand Naruto is stronger but this is just ridiculous. Next up he'll probably beat all of Pein's bodies at once, then kill Madara with a single Rasengan. Ergh...


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