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Chelse_gladrin9
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i dont know whats going on.i need to finish the books. i havent finished reading ALL of the books i have to last 2 to go...TT and RotK

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Did he really? Wow! Cool! Even better!


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I'm guessing Isildur would probably turn out like Gollum. He'll isolate himself gradually, and all that. You get the idea.

The Dwarves who had their rings were too tough. Too hard-ass and Sauron had a hard time with them. That's why they were'nt turned into Nazgul if that's possible.

Those Men with the 9 Rings basically just became invisible and their souls are now permanently attached to the Shadow World. They're just wearing those black cloaks in some cases when they have some dealings with the creatures in the "normal" world so they can see them.


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hey thats am good question.. what happened to the 7 rings gived to the dwarf-lords? ..please based information..not silly answers big grin....EXA


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3 of the Rings were taken by Sauron. The other 4 were destroyed and consumed by Dragons.


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ok thanx shadowy big grin


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if memory serves me right (which it doesn't), wern't the 9 kings of men giving another 9 rings by sauron himself?


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"Another" 9 rings? huh? Whenwherewhat?

I dont think he wouldve become a Nazgûl as they are only wraiths because they are bound by the power of the One and slaves of their rings - but how could Isildur be a slave to someone when it's himself who's wearing the ring... no, I think he would have become powermad or something, or would like Gollum have sought for peace in some lonely place... earlier or later, he wouldve given the Ring to Sauron I think, as soon as the Dark Lord had recovered his strength.


only the bearer and the fate of the First and at the same time Last of the Seven rings [of the others we only have the information that some were recovered by Sauron, some devoured by the dragons that took possession of the treasuries of the dwarves]

This last ring of the first house belonged to Thráin II when it was lost... the dwarf was captured by Sauron and imprisoned in Dol Guldur where he was tortured and Sauron took the Ring; several years later Gandalf found him there, and before he died, Thráin gave a key and a map to Gandalf which were handed to Thórin - who started the journey to the Lonely Mountain.


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dwarves were hard ass because they were made to endure

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he would become a wraith...

golum WOULD have become one if he had put the ring on more often...but living in a cave he had no need for it......


its not the ring you become a slave to its saurons will.......the nazgul were 'slaves of the ring' because at the time they were called that all saurons will was on the ring


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its not the ring you become a slave to its saurons will.......the nazgul were 'slaves of the ring' because at the time they were called that all saurons will was on the ring

But how can you become slave to Sauron's will through the Ring if you ARE the owner of the Ring and Sauron is still to weak to recover his strength


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does sam want the ring?

In ROTK when sam is giving Frodo the ring, is he reluctant because he is being tempted, or is it because Frodo was really brisk in saying "give me the ring!" confused


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I was thinking that too I was like hmmmm let me see now is it coz of this or coz of that confused


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he was being tempted

in the book he had imaginations of 'sam the great' storming across mordor and defeating the dark lord


laughing poor dis-illusiend little hobbit


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At first I thought that Sam was actually concerned on what the ring is doing to Frodo and he's reluctant to give back to ring because of his dear Mr. Frodo but then again the second tme I watched it seemed more like Sam was more reluctant because he wants to keep the ring but hasn't had that long of a time for it to have effect on him so he gave back the ring.


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Oh thank you for clearing that up sauron big grin I've only read the book once and I don't really read many books so I don't really understand what's going on sometimes smile


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quote:
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he was being tempted

in the book he had imaginations of 'sam the great' storming across mordor and defeating the dark lord


laughing poor dis-illusiend little hobbit


if he had to be tempted, at least it's temptaion of destroying the ring, but, why is it only Frodo that has to destroy the ring? because he only does it by accident really.


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yep, sam wanted to be the hero and also the power of the ring was coming strong onto Sam now (seeing as they were in Mordor and so close to Gorgoroth), just like when Sam asked to "share the load" that Frodo was reluctant to give it to him......and even told him where to go..


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@exa, probably just when he recovered its strength, I think Isildur would have turned into a Gollum like creature and devoured into pretty much crap!

How did sauron currupt the minds of the 9 kings in the first place?


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