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shadowy_blue
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Because they are in greed of power. As Galadriel said in the prologue, "who above all else, desire power". big grin

Sauron deceived them. Promised them long spans of life, maybe even immortality and ongoing wealth and eternal power. Then they accepted the Rings and they became great indeed during their time just like Sauron promised, but still, he claimed his price eventually. big grin

They slowly fell into the Shadow and became Sauron's deadliest and most loyal servants. The rest is history. big grin

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Feb 28th, 2004 03:25 AM

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Camellia
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Half and half - he did not want to burden Frodo once again, but the Ring was also playing with his mind and tempting him.

Feb 28th, 2004 09:49 AM

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HannaBananabal
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Originally posted by Kitoky
At first I thought that Sam was actually concerned on what the ring is doing to Frodo and he's reluctant to give back to ring because of his dear Mr. Frodo but then again the second tme I watched it seemed more like Sam was more reluctant because he wants to keep the ring but hasn't had that long of a time for it to have effect on him so he gave back the ring.

WHEW! That has to be the longest sentance I've ever read! wink

That's how I'd put it tho, that's what I thought too.

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Mar 2nd, 2004 06:09 AM

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Kitoky
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Longest....nah. big grin

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i thought the ring was casting a spell on sam. just like it did on boromir. it's ,like, hypnotizing... they cannot weild the ring.

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shadowy_blue
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In ROTK, listen very carefully. When Sam was giving the Ring back to Frodo, the Ring was whispering, "Keep me..."

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Mar 3rd, 2004 12:08 AM

HannaBananabal
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sweet, now that it's mentioned... I did hear something...

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Mar 3rd, 2004 12:51 AM

HannaBananabal
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Well, I guess that's the end of this thread

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Mar 3rd, 2004 12:51 AM

Smodden
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whoa thanx s-b, i never noticed that.....now i have another reason to see rotk!! big grin

thats whats great about LOTR everytime you watch you see something new you've never seen befor...

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HannaBananabal
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That's so true, it makes it worth the money to see it more than once.

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Mar 3rd, 2004 02:15 AM

aniron
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s-b? I'm aniron. or are you on about hi saying "keep me" in the film or book?

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LOL..aniron, I think they were talking about the Keep me thing. big grin

s-b is me. LOL.. laughing

They call me that. big grin

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Discos
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also the fact that Boromir could sort of "possesed" by the ring was for um-teen reasons, his father bassically ordered him to bring the ring to Gondor, Men were weak (sorry but they were)

Discos - plus, it's boromir shifty

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Kitoky
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After the Numenoreans crawled to Sauron, men were lost....

I think that Boromir was more or less fueled by the will to please his father and he took action to try an take the ring.

"You can't outrun me! You're short!" *trips* "SHIT, I tripped."

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heh, i think thats why he got upset, he knew his father was an crazed freak...and his father though highly of Boromir and did not want to ruin his happiness sad

its sad really

Discos - I am off to make a new thread

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Mar 3rd, 2004 10:47 PM

big gay kirk
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The important thing is that Sam did give the ring back to Frodo... making Sam the only person in the history of Middle Earth to willingly give up the one Ring without help...

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Kitoky
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Well give up I don't know, but Sam is one of the people who did not take a big influence from the ring, such as Galadriel and Gandalf.

Well Boromir gave up the ring didn't he? On the slop of the mountain.

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Mar 3rd, 2004 11:54 PM

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the Power of the Ring

In the Fellowship, it says that the Ring gave Gollum power according to his stature. Could this be part of the reason hobbits are less corrupted by the ring? I was just wondering what you guys thoughts on this were smile

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Discos
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Smeagol was very weak to the ring, the ring was like totally controlling him,

the rings "power" did give Bilbo youth but would of turned him into something nearer to Gollum

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Apr 15th, 2004 01:02 PM