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Camellia
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My theory is (and I'm sorry if it's wrong!):

That basically, men are weaker than the other races and Sauron and/or the Ring are using this weakness in order to corrupt them (e.g. Boromir)

They start out (Boromir) with wanting to use the Ring with the will of performing good deeds in order to help Middle-earth but because the Ring knows of the desire to use it and knows of Men's weakness, they use this combination of things in order to corrupt them and to tempt them to try to take the Ring.


Just an idea I had! embarrasment

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Denethor seemed to have the fixed idea that becoz he could see with the palantir, he could somehow get ahead of Sauron, and defeat him!Crazy ole bastard! roll eyes (sarcastic)


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yea, denethor was insane, that's why [SPOILER - highlight to read]: he burned himself at the pyre idiot!


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quote:
Originally posted by BingaBonga
yea, denethor was insane, that's why [SPOILER - highlight to read]: he burned himself at the pyre idiot!
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Sorry about the outrage was in a bad mood but like what i was asking for was your ideals not how it really was destroyed i see only a few people got that but its all good


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Yeah you did get pretty hot headed bk there! shifty Glad I'm not a moron any longer! wink


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Well. Ofcourse! It's what the book said. I think she ment, what exactly is gonna happen in the movie. NOT the books! We all know that!
Has PJ made it RIGHT after the books? forexample does Frodo lose his finger?
Does Gollum die? Does the ring take over frodo completely?
I think that was the questions....
If you people can answer those questions then speak.

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wait, what hav e you read the books?


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Find this such a stupid question. If you truly read the books, you know how it ends.
Just wait a couple of more weeks, until ROTK comes out..........then all your questions will be answered. Go read the books again. Go watch the DVD's. That'll keep you busy for the next 3 weeks.


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I THINK THE RING WILL BE DESTORYED
SHALL I TELL U EMEMEMEMEMEMEME
OK THEN
THEY GET TO THE VOLCANO TO DESTROY THE RING RIGHT AND GOLLOM FALLS IN WITH IT
I LIKE GOLLOM
AND GANDFAL AND FRODO GO TO HEVEN AND SAM GET MARRIED AND HAS A CHILD WELL SHOWS OVER FOKES BYE DREAM CATCHER

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and that's why i took this thread as a joke and said that someone will eat it


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By the way!

Theres one thing I really dont get. If the Nazguls and Sauron sense it if somebody wears the ring, then why dont they sense sam wearing the ring after Frodo getting bitten by Kankra?

Or when Sam holds the ring (in Cirith Ungol) and all the Orcs see a elven warrior.

Well its a question if these things will be in the third movie. But at least in the book i really didnt understand it.

Sorry for my bad grammar

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who the hell is Kankra?

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Flame of Anor:
They don't sense sam wearing the ring because he is hidden in Shelob's layer and the eye can't reach there.
The orcs don't see an elven warrior, they just think that it is one beacuse of all the carnage, that it must have been causesd by an elven warrior.
I think by Kankra you mean Shelob?


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quote:
Originally posted by Exa
I dont think Saruman will think Pip has the ring - we wont even see him in RoTK.
And the Nazgul only feel the ring when they are near OR when someone wears it.
Otherwise, they wouldve found Frodo far earlier.

mad mad mad mad mad


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sorry i meant saruman isn't in the movie that ticks me off mad


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Yes right he isnt
only on the extended version


Kankra is Shelob... in the German version...
by the way, WILLKOMMEN, Flame Of Anor, endlich ein anderer Ösi! War schon so einsam hier big grin

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Originally posted by Flame of Anor
Theres one thing I really dont get. If the Nazguls and Sauron sense it if somebody wears the ring, then why dont they sense sam wearing the ring after Frodo getting bitten by Kankra?

Or when Sam holds the ring (in Cirith Ungol) and all the Orcs see a elven warrior.


Good question
Perhaps because they absolutely do not expect the Ring in this direction?


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BingaBonga shorten your sig you write two words and it takes up the whole page i mean come on


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there is TWO ways in which the ring can be destroyed actually, little known fact that one,

the fires of mt doom ANNNND dragons fire

although i think smaug was last dragon


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yah I believe he was


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