I see that you're still not at 100% yet. Take some time to recuperate, it's okay.
Thor doesn't have the stones to kill people according to you yet here you admit that Thor would kill someone if he got slightly enraged?
Yet you just said if slightly enraged, he would kill someone. Do you think so little of the Surfer that you don't believe he could even get Thor riled up? Stop being such a Thor bag and lowballing a herald of Galactus.
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Yeah Quasar had him dead to rights, but didn't press the attack. It would have been funny if as soon as he entrapped Mjolnir in the quantum bubble, he Quantum Jumped to Thor and trapped him in the Quantum Zone.
But yeah Surfer didn't do jack to Mjolnir under his own power. Loki amped him and even then Thor was holding back.
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Like I said, it could easily be explained as Quasar focusing his mind. But if he quickly attempted a Quantum Jump, it most likely would have worked on Masterson. If it was the real Thor, he would summoned Mjolnir back to him through sheer force and/or teleportation.
No need to put a forcefield around Mjolnir. If he tossed it at Surfer it would probably be better and smarter to transmute the air around it into a giant ball (say 9'-15' in diameter) of some rubbery adhesive so that when Thor summons it back to his hand he can't wield it as he can't actually grab it.
Haha, what the hell? If suddenly we're controlling the characters, then Thor would simply teleport Mjolnir into his hand from whatever substance Surfer imprisons it in.
He's encased several people in substances, as well as encasing people in his board (Genis-Vell iirc, though he was Legacy at the time). I'll see if I can find scans. They should be in Surfer's respect thread, actually. Goober was pretty thorough. If I recall, he also did something really weird to Lunatik like binding his life force to a planet so that if he (Lunatik) were to ever leave he'd die. Surfer could be a dick and bind Thor's life force to a random rock lying on the ground and then just toss it off world. As lame as it is, it could be game/set/match (though likely hard for anyone to accept).
The only time I recall Thor tping Mjolnir to his hand when it was consumed the Terminex Prime. But even then he had to chant some prayer/spell or something.
I really don't see that happening in a fight vs the Surfer.
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Another thing to consider is that Surfer can encase Thor's hands just as easily. That's be another smart yet cheap tactic. Form metal blocks on both his hands and then bind them magnetically or molecularly. That's assuming Thor does a hammer toss though. In scenarios where Thor would let the Hammer escape his grasp, Surfer holds a distinct advantage. In scenarios where he keeps the hammer in his hand, Surfer's best bet would be to create restraints so that Thor's can't twirl Mjolnir to form barriers, etc. Encasing Thor's head would be a good idea as well.
What I meant is that since a large number of pages have been focused on black holes, you have conceded that all other arguments accept black holes would lose. It is the argument you have chosen to champion.
When we're dealing with such an argument, we have to consider:
1) The likelihood
2) The plausibility
3) The defense
The likelihood is near zero, the plausibility worse, and Thor's defense is a big question mark. He could very well survive such a phenomenon, since he's a supernatural deity that defies physical laws, and black holes tend to job in comics.
You keep making arguments that involve the Surfer staying away from a direct confrontation with Thor. As do most SS fans. It's quite telling.
When has the Surfer done this? Besides never, I mean. OTOH, Thor starts out at a level of strength that makes the Surfer's jaw drop (see their first encounter).
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I will say he will stop it. No! Surfer can drain Thor himself or just absorb any energy shot out from the hammer. Surfer just puts a black hole on Thor and that will be the end of it. Or just hit him from behind with the board at a million c.
Thor can't instantly summon the hammer back if it's trapped. It will come back but far from instantly. Thor would just be an open duck ready to be cooked.
That's why I said Surfer would TEMPORARILY trap it. That opens up Thor for an attack.
Surfer attempts to trap Mjolnir? Thor instantly has it teleport to his hand.
Surfer creates a black hole? Thor shrugs, overpowers it, and rips Surfer's head off.
I lol'd at Surfer beating Thor through energy absorption though. Surfer always says a little prayer before engaging Thor, hoping that the Odinson never turns Mjolnir's energy absorption directly against him as it would pretty be the end of that bald and glinting bastard.
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