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Bar-en-Danwedh
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it's not that important... the important thing is that Shelob was the daughter of Ungoliant, who was basically a GOD!!! so Mithril would be as affective against her as it pretty much would have been against the balrog

i.e. not very!!!


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nothing can penetrate mithril and ungoliant was only a maia


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quote:
Originally posted by Thorondor
nothing can penetrate mithril and ungoliant was only a maia


"only" a Maia... Sauron is also "only" a Maia... so obviously Maiar can do a LOT... and a Balrog would crush a mithril mail thingie like a piece of cloth. Mithril is said to have been as hard as a dragon's armour, but that is still not undestroyable
at least not for Maiar.

Still I don't think Shelob could have destroyed the Mithril so easily, after all she ISNT a Maia.


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my point is ungoliant was a maia shelob is only a big spider stick out tongue


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quote:
Originally posted by Thorondor
ungoliant was a maia shelob is only a big spider stick out tongue


emp wink

Lúthien was also half Maia and I dont think she could have "penetrated" this mithril thingie stick out tongue


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ofcourse not she is prissy....hot...but prissy stick out tongue


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And aren't Balrogs Maiar anyway. Or some kinda spirit?


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quote:
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And aren't Balrogs Maiar anyway. Or some kinda spirit?


Maiar are spirits

And Balrogs are Maiar


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the mitril coats neckline was at collar height, she could not have stabbed him above it without stabbing his neck,
it went down to the waistline of his trousers.
in the book i think it is his neck that is stung as i remember thinking that he would die of that....not the poison.

simple movie mistake, that was they dont have to show it going in stick out tongue

daves money to use on big cg explosion


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if they did show it going in the cert might have gone up...speaking of which i wonder what the 18 version is like big grin


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it has shelob eating his eyes. yes


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exactly what i said, if the mithril coat could withstand a spear thrown by a troll it could certainly withstand that little stinger.


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shelob is after all just a mere housespider from barud dur that happened to find and eat some radioactive waste


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Frodo was stabbed in the back of the neck with Shelob's anaesthetising poison rather than her lethal one.


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when we see frodo in the tower of cirith ungol, he has 2 marks on his body (witchkings stab and shelobs sting), it looks most likely shelobs stab went through the vest, which shouldnt of happened


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In the book she stabbed him in the neck above his vest Happy Dance


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ahhh this is all so confusing, cause i didnt know this thread was here but i made the same topic asking about that, and im highly confused...alright...so now..ive been watching that scene over and over to figure it out, cause i just dont understand, when shelob is doing her sneak attack, if you look...you cant even see the mithril on, where as in the beginning you could see it (as he was playing with the ring and stuffed back in his shirt) so thats weird, AND...in the tower of cirith ungol, i never saw the stab mark of shelob, i rewinded 20 million times, because i looked for it to be near on his stomach, since when she stabs him, it looks like she did stab him in the stomach, the only wound i see is the one from witchy, and of course scars from the ring and everything, but NO shelob mark, and all of you are saying, he was stabbed in the back or on the neck in the book, but in the film, it looks like she stabs him in the stomach, BUT i just had a vision of that scene, maybe i missed something...cause maybe before he turned around to see her...she had already stabbed him, because now im looking for which way he fell backwards, maybe it looks like he had already turned around and she stabbed him in the stomach, but maybe there is a trick there and she really stabs him in the back, AHHHH im all confused, but im wondering...WHY didnt the mithril help him? it saved him from the cave trolls stabbing...why didnt it for shelobs stabbing?


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