But eggs don't spontaneously just appear, there had to be something to lay the egg, in fact, there had to be something to fertilize it as well. Its a bit like saying, what came first, man, or the egg (obviously, baring Biblical creation, an ova didn't just one day appear and become a human, forgetting the sperm as well)...
So, something had to lay the egg, probably something a lot different to a chicken, but over the years evolution occurred, and eventually chickens began to appear, but it would be a long process, chickens wouldn't have just appeared, it would be gradual, in fact, chickens today are different from chickens 100 years ago, thats the wonder of evolution.
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for normal people:
The egg came first, because breakfast comes before lunch!
for those like me:
it doesnt matter! chickens are here now, they lay eggs, end of conversation! i'd rather worry about something that does indeed matter
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ok i havent really read any of the stuff posted before so forgive me if someone has posted this idea before
even if the egg came first, we are forgetting one thing, THE CHICK THAT HATCHED WUDNT NECESSARILY BE A HEN{who could lay eggs},
it could have been a cock!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Animal reproduction takes place via Viviparous, Oviparous or Ovoviviparous methods. Viviparous refers to embryo development internal to the parent body, excluding the laying of an egg. Oviparous means the laying of an egg where the embryo develops entirely or virtually entirely inside the egg and not in the parent body. Ovoviviparous is the means of reproduction via egg development and hatching inside the parent body.
The givens concerning origin of egg and animal are the following: An egg can only come from an egg-producing animal; thus, there must first be an animal allowing the existence of eggs at all. An animal, on the other hand, can come from either another animal or from an egg produced by an animal.
Based on this, we have now arrived at a logically exhaustive premise. In short: without an animal their can be no egg, but without an egg their can be an animal.
Thus, the issue concerning the primary origin a propos egg and animal is resolved and we must logically conclude that animal comes before egg.
Turning our focus now to the chicken and egg question, first of all it is not only an unnecessary question, but also an irrational question. Evolution of species essentially takes place through mutations being either fit or unfit in relation to their environmental condition. The two possible origins of the chicken are: a chicken born from a non-chicken species through the viviparous method (this mutated form of the non-chicken species is egg laying), and a chicken hatched from an egg produced by a non-chicken species, where the chicken is again a mutated form (egg laying) of its non-chicken predecessor. So the real question should rather be: by which method did the chicken ancestor give birth to the chicken. The only two possible origins are those mentioned above. Simply put, the chicken ancestor was before the chicken; and the real matter of importance is that the ANIMAL came BEFORE the EGG.
Animal reproduction takes place via Viviparous, Oviparous or Ovoviviparous methods. Viviparous refers to embryo development internal to the parent body, excluding the laying of an egg. Oviparous means the laying of an egg where the embryo develops entirely or virtually entirely inside the egg and not in the parent body. Ovoviviparous is the means of reproduction via egg development and hatching inside the parent body.
The givens concerning origin of egg and animal are the following: An egg can only come from an egg-producing animal; thus, there must first be an animal allowing the existence of eggs at all. An animal, on the other hand, can come from either another animal or from an egg produced by an animal.
Based on this, we have now arrived at a logically exhaustive premise. In short: without an animal their can be no egg, but without an egg their can be an animal.
Thus, the issue concerning the primary origin a propos egg and animal is resolved and we must logically conclude that animal comes before egg.
Turning our focus now to the chicken and egg question, first of all it is not only an unnecessary question, but also an irrational question. Evolution of species essentially takes place through mutations being either fit or unfit in relation to their environmental condition. The two possible origins of the chicken are: a chicken born from a non-chicken species through the viviparous method (this mutated form of the non-chicken species is egg laying), and a chicken hatched from an egg produced by a non-chicken species, where the chicken is again a mutated form (egg laying) of its non-chicken predecessor. So the real question should rather be: by which method did the chicken ancestor give birth to the chicken. The only two possible origins are those mentioned above. Simply put, the chicken ancestor was before the chicken; and the real matter of importance is that the ANIMAL came BEFORE the EGG.
Oh my god whats up with you mind? Are you mind controlled by Philosophicus? Or are you mocking him? You posted 4 times so far and started two threads all aboot how genius Philosophicus is? You are not a sock, are you?
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it's still so hard to believe that a chicken can be evolved to lay eggs... I mean try to imagine Philosophicus evolved to a dog and became eleveninches's dog (joking... since evolvation takes long period of time)
and eleveninches says "come doggy".....
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