DAMMIT WHY THE HELL WONT THIS COUNTRY PRINT THESE EXCELLENT COMICS (although i just had a thought Patricia and Brock i think there could be a romance there whereas Ann could't accept the fact of her ex being two beings plus a murderer plus occasionally homicidal (of course i thought she might have understood after her bouts of being she venom ) but she didn't so there was no rekindling of that little love flame but Patricia she understands in a sense and both the venoms would understand each other, ahhh true symbiote Love is there nothing happier
Tough to argue with that logic. The perpetually practical Spike Spiegel, Ladies and Gentlemen. I like it when he visits the Spidey threads-always helpful beyond expectation, and not nearly as deranged as any of the rest of us, who are all prone to succumbing to our own madnesses once in a while.
Boy, fox--you JUST thought of a relationship between the two? I've been writing about since at least May or June, though I thought it was really one sided. I knew even before the two encountered each other that Eddie would be drawn to the resilient but still feminine Army-trained heroine.
It was obvious that he was enraptured by her when they first met, but what surprised me was the way Eddie's symbiote accepted Patricia's clone, and didn't seem to feel threatened by it at all.
See, this makes the book getting cancelled all the more distressing.
It would have been really neat to see Patricia struggle a while longer with the concept of being a host. Since her control-device is shot, it would have been interesting to see Eddie be the only one who can help her control her symbiote. She doesn't like Eddie, or *either* symbiote, so she'd have been forced to keep company with these "loathsome" beings... meanwhile struggling with her animal attraction to Brock [plainly seen, much to her surprise, at the end of issue 16...? I forget which.]
So we'd have Patricia struggling to control her symbiote AND herself. Trying to do the "right" thing. Meanwhile Brock is continually tempting her to become what he is, to stop fighting and surrender. As time passes, her determination not to give in begins to erode...
I'd like to write this up but I do NOT have time... I hate studying [4 big tests this coming week]... it would make a hell of a fanfic. And that's probably the only way we'd ever see such a plotline, because given the choice between hackneyed and something really cool, Marvel's going to pick "hackneyed" 99 times out of 100. They rarely delve into any complicated concept.
This book being canceled really, really ticks me off. It could have went into such interesting and uncharted territory.
That's why I liked this book so much, too. It had so many different sub-plots and was a really intricate story. I'll always wonder what could have happened. After you read this one, we can really get into this. I would love to get into and analyze the possibility and aspects of a relationship between them with you.
I have many theories about why this book was so unpopular.
The first is that the story began backwards, and that lost the interest of many people from the get-go. Most just don't have the tenacity to try to see a story through to the end--especially a story as complicated as this one (which I felt was among the most involved stories I've ever read in a comic, made more so by the amount of content in relation to it's miniscule longevity). I heard at least several friends say that they liked it, but they had to read each issue two or three times to be able to comprehend it all.
The next thing I found people didn't appreciate was the guest appearance of Wolverine in the second arc--most attributed it automatically as a cheap ploy to sell more issues.
The fact that Eddie Brock was no where to be seen until the tenth or 11th issue didn't help, either, and still more people hate the style of art, citing that as the reason they didn't buy or read it, which I think is a stupid reason. The art was beautiful, but the traditional version of Venom was what they expected, and they weren't able to see beyond that.
On another board, I once did an informal poll to try & figure out exactly why this book is so hated, because almost everyone says they hate it. Was it the plot? Was it the art? Was it that Eddie was *absent* for much of the plot? Was it Wolverine, The Inescapable Man [cheap marketing ploy, yep....]? What exactly?
Almost every single respondent said it was the art, much to my surprise. People were open to the plot offered; I think if we'd had someone like Dodson or Bagley on the book it would not be cancelled now. There was an interview with Quesada posted on Superhero Hype a few months back where he stated that Marvel would be returning to more traditional art-styles, and I for one say "Hooray!"
Imagine if we'd had someone like Cho [hottest Brock ever!] drawing this book! People would be beating down doors to buy it. Its just all very sad & upsetting. We get something complex for once and the rug gets snatched right out from under us.... I feel a big ol' piece of fan-art with Brock and Patricia coming on. I must work through my grief! [grin]
Yeah, it's nice to see that we got pretty much the same type of feedback. I just think people weren't ready for this yet. I thought I may have been overanalyzing, but I guess I'm not the only one. You are the ONLY other female I've ever encountered that read this book. And you liked it as much as I, and clearly we're both smart, so that means we're right, the book's good, and everyone else is, of course, wrong and sucks for hatin' it. At least, that's my theory.
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Lol that was kinda straight forward! The only reason i didnt like the Venom series is because Way never really assumes the reader knows nothing, so he writes like hes reading a book he's read before... if that makes sense... I, personally, loved Young's art. People say he tries to copy Ramos, but wouldnt you? Everyone needs and idle and to learn a style SOMEwhere. Having bad art is no excuse to cancel it whatsoever. I think others just cant take the simplistic style of young compared to others.
I had to read the reviews and then re-read the comics to get the plot. It was just kinda... whats the word im looking for?
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HOLY SH.....oot!!! I think Skottie Young put my initials as graffiti in his Human Torch series! Me and him are buds, and it wouldnt just be coincidence that JLC appeared on a wall in a page of it! Lookit this in the bottom left corner!!!
I am so about to ask him if this is what he meant to do. If its not i am really gunna be embaressed.
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__________________ Caboose: Have you tried walking it off?
Church: I cant move my legs, you idiot.
Caboose: I see... Have you tried running? OOH OOH... Why dont you try... walking on your hands! Then you can use your feet for hi fives n eatin sandwhiches, yknow the IMPORTANT stuff!
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