He can fly because the gravity on earth is much weaker than the gravity on Krypton.
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Yeah, in the first one, she had on a red wig. In the second one, she dyed her hair.
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Lets supose the supes weight a 100 kg.One atlhet in perfect body condition, can lift the equivalent to his own weight.
Considering superman 1000 stronger than an average ordinary athlet,he can lift 100 thousands Kg(the weight suported by those car what lift bridges). So much strengh would inviabilize his extraordinary speed.
There for,the strengh needed to lift an object in a planet is equal to the mass of the object multiplied to the planet gravity ( F= m. g )
for that, a man who can lift 100 kg on earth can lif 600 kg on moon,wich has one sixth of earths gravity.
This means that for superman be a thousand times stronger on earth then on his planet,krypton would have to have a mass a thousand time bigger than earth´s one.
If we round earth gravity from 9,8 to 10m/seg square, multiplying to 1000 ,we would have a gravity of 10 thousand m/seg square in krypton
A surface wich such gravity would have a mass of 3 thousand times the sun ones. and therefor ,acording to the laws of phisics ,krypton is impossible and so is superman
Wow, the text looked LIKE RJ's, but without that old avatar, I didn't even recognize him...
He still doesn't make much sense though. The best part of the entire post above me?
Also...
I'm certain that an athlete in perfect body condition can light more than 1x his weight.
Oops, I have some more.
"Average ordinary athlete"? "Inviabilize"? "1000 stronger"? What are you babbling about?
At this point, you've completely lost me. Well, not completely. I think what RJ is trying to say is that if Superman were to be considered a normal Kryptonian but have the strength to lift 100 tons, the gravity would have to be 1000 times stronger than Earth's.
But, as anyone with half a brain knows, Superman's strength is because of our yellow sun. Thus, Krypton does NOT have a gravity 1000 times greater than Earth's. Duh.
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That's the ONE thing I actually like about Superman. I like the fact his planet had a stronger gravity.
OK - that's a great explanation for his strength, and his speed. I like this.
But it does not explain his flying. If I went to a planet where the gravity was a thousand times lighter than earth - should I be able to fly? No. I could jump really high - but I'd eventually come back down - I certainly couldn't hold myself in the air indefinitely like supes.
The gravity idea merely explains his super-jumping, strength, toughness and speed really well. The gravity idea does not explain how he can fly - because the gravity has no effect on that ability.
Kryptonians are just born with the ability to fly along with heat vision and ice breath - and I find that ridiculous.
I'd like Superman if he was just a super-man. He was tougher, faster, stronger, could jump amazing distances. Kind of like Hulk only not quite as trong but a lot smarter. The fact he flies, can breath ice and fire lasers from his eyes - with no real explanation, does my head in.
Oh well, it's gone off the rails a bit - but I like this discussion, keep it going.
I don't know. I've never read any Superman comics, lol. I just bought one of the DC guides to Superman and it said he could fly because of the gravity difference, and that he was normal until the sun gave him enough energy or something like that.
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Superman's abilities are a consequence of a form of sub-concious telekinesis. The sun powers this telekenisis, which gives Superman an aura around him that gives him his near-invulnerability, lifts him in the air(fly), and gives him his strength(telekinetically enhanced leg muscles=super speed) Where he got the ice breath, heat vision, super hearing, telescopic vision, microscopic vision, and all that other junk is beyond me. I still like him though.
whaterver, what i dont like in spiderman movies was the frog face fat robertson, and the fact mj and pete are related ever since , but as they used the ultimate as a aproach it ok. better then blind date.
THAT'S exactly what I'm talking about. Some writer made that up. I hate people making stuff up as they go along.
Superman with telekinesis now? Come on.
And yeah, his other powers are a consequence of him being crappy, that's all.
I was watching The Justice League cartoon the other day, and it was the one where they split up. Guess who instigated the split? That's right, big fat head Superman.
"I never got into this kinda trouble when i was alone" - he's such an ass.
Lots of superheroes' powers are because of the sun. Even Cyclops's powers do.
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so your saying only when cyclops out side in the day he cant shoot beams out off his eyes???? because if you are the your wrong his eyes arent solar powered
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If you think about it, the telekinesis is his ONLY power, and that gives him everything else. Sometimes it is a bit much, but that won't keep me from liking him, or any number of Superman rip-offs(Supreme, Hyperion, Prime, Shazam, etc.). He's probably the most copied superhero ever, with Batman coming in second.
superman sucks..c'mon now...those people cant recongize someone with glasses and parts with hair differently..jeezus...theres a fine line between bein a superhero and bein invincable and superman is damn near invincable although the show smallville is actually descent coz its just based on a young clark kent (not superman), he cant fly, hes young, naive, and doesnt have all of his powers so he seems to be more vulnerable, but the main reason to watch that show is lana...she's hot!
Thats why I never liked SUPERMAN as a comic and thats why I thought the first manspider movie was so horrible because it was so horribly written.For one,when Tobey is talking to that wrestling promoter and yelling at him about not getting paid what he should have been,he has his mask off,after demonstrating his abilites that he did in the ring and how his photos DO appear in the newspaper there at the daily bugle,just like superman,that guy would have found out that peter parker and spiderman are one in the same.Then there is the moment in the cafeteria where he shoots out his webbing and drags the tray with his webbing,then does all these impossible back flips in the air and hits the guy sending him flying across the floor a 100 feet or so,then a couple months later,demonstrates these abilities in front of dozens of onlookers,then a guy in a spiderman costume swings by the same neighborhood a couple months later.sorry even a dork like FLASH THOMPSON would easily put two and two together and see that peter parker and spiderman are the same person.
His eyes ARE solarpowered. Light can even get through his eyelids when he's sleeping, and "since virtually all natural light on earth comes directly or indirectly from the sun, a small amount of power is produced even at night".
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