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Zeal Ex Nihilo
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FaceMan? Check your spelling, d00d! And yes, your constant bitching about the "Man-Spider" movies has put you on my "people who suck" list. Stating your opinion on something once is OK. Repeatedly stating your opinion and pissing and moaning to whoever is listening (or perhaps NOT listening) and bitching and bitching and bitching AND BITCHING is not OK.


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Ok, sorry, i was wrong in one letter. Feceman, im not bithching, im only posting the truth, what a betrayal are those stupid man spider movies to the original comics and its spirit. In the same way, im tired to see people always with the same brainwashed and asskissing about that man spider movie and its sequel.


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I'm not going to ass-kiss the movies, but I still think they were pretty good smile.

And you shouldn't be put on the "suck" list, but it just was easier than making multiple separate lists. Actually, I probably shouldn't have put you, but just Mr Parker.


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quote:
Originally posted by bakerboy
Ok, sorry, i was wrong in one letter. Feceman, im not bithching, im only posting the truth, what a betrayal are those stupid man spider movies to the original comics and its spirit. In the same way, im tired to see people always with the same brainwashed and asskissing about that man spider movie and its sequel.


It's actually kept the spirit of the comics really well.

It HAS changed some things, and yes I understand how you feel, but people these days have their own minds. I made up my own mind about the movies. Spidey 1 was flawed but good, and Spider-Man 2 was ten times better. I've posted why this was so, and it was mainly down to the fact the movie (particularly the sequel) kept the spirit of the Spider-Man character alive.

He was getting dumped on, beat up, screwed, smashed, knocked-out, and destroyed. He was expressed on screen with all the poise, grace and brutality that he deserves. His character came across as a true hero, more than any other comic book hero so far. It did a tremendous job of showcasing Spider-Man as a serious comic book character, that adults can enjoy, and probably got rid of the misconceptions of comics being just for kids too. Peter Parker was still shown to be an boy genius without the webshooters. The fact that he was so respected by Doc Ock actually helped him save the day by helping Doc Ock destroy the fusion thingy. Only Peter Parker could have gotten through to Dock Ock's rational side. Any other superhero would have been screwed. It made Spider-Man justified, not just another superhero. It made Spider-Man look AMAZING. It was dark, tragic, funny, sad and romantic - everything that the comics were.

If that's not keeping the spirit of Spider-Man alive, I don't know what is.
Despite my initial dislike for the organics, I have gone over the facts in my mind time and time again, and everytime, their existence becomes more justified. The spirit was kept alive without them.

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Their existence becomes more justified? you have made some good posts before in the past but this is the dumbest thing you have EVER said saying the existence of the organics were justified.no the spirit of the comics was betrayed,anybody with any logic and common sense would see that.the organics are only justified in the movie if the title of the film is MAN-SPIDER. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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but this is the dumbest thing you have EVER said


I'll bear that in mind. No need to be so insulting.

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Have you even seen the REAL Manspider movie? It really kicked ass, and when you see that, you will understand what a FULL spider mutation really is. Giving Spiderman organics is NOTHING compared to what this guy got.


I feel that some people need to see this.


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quote:
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I'll bear that in mind. No need to be so insulting.


Just telling you that you made a dumb statement isnt insulting,now if I said you were dumb,now that WOULD be insulting.this movie isnt titel spiderman 2009,if it were,then the organics would be justified and I would have no problem with them even though I dont like them.


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i don't understand what you all are truly B****ing about.
your all acting like an old married couple(so in love...why cant they see it? JK )


i truly just don't understand.
spiderman is still spiderman, one way or another. peter parker, spiderman....there the same, no mater what. the idea spiderman provides is the same, and the this single message still echoes in my mind.

With great power, comes great responsibility.

whether or not we like organics, we must remember, everything is all cosmetic, although the look of spiderman has changed, the essance, the concept, the morality, the soul, THE VERY BASIC IDEAS THAT COMPOSE of spiderman is still the same. Spiderman has never truly changed, he still is composed of the same values and morales, the brains and the wit, the sense of honor, his responsibiliy.spiderman in truth has never really changed.

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Red superfly's giant post truly grasp the concept of The bêtise(stupidity for those who dont understand large words) of this argument.

i could have only dreamed to write such a well writen and thought full post, my post was only a shadow to the totality of his post. I agree 100% with his statement.
i just dont understand how this is a betrayal.

here is websters definition of betrayal

websters definition of betrayal

To give aid or information to an enemy of; commit treason against: betray one's country.
To deliver into the hands of an enemy in violation of a trust or allegiance: betrayed Christ to the Romans.
To be false or disloyal to: betrayed their cause; betray one's better nature.
To divulge in a breach of confidence: betray a secret.
To make known unintentionally: Her hollow laugh betrayed her contempt for the idea.
To reveal against one's desire or will.
To lead astray; deceive. See Synonyms at deceive.

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I see no one(cough mr.parker cough) has challenged this statement. yet.

I just got back from seeing Spiderman 2 again, and it completely erased all my doubts about this organic webbing crap. honestly, answer this. if spiderman did have webcartridges in the movies, would it be any better? would it really change it that much? I ask you to think about this. could he have stopped the train the same with web shooters, yes. He did all the things he could regularly do with webshooters, and that was enough. it didnt change the movie at all, or ruin anything. he still was shown to be the same brilliantly smart guy in the films, even without webshooters, he understood the danger of the fusion expirement, he talked on the same level with octavius; he doesnt need webshooters to show how brilliant he really is.

In the end, it's always been the same spiderman we all know and love, and anyone who refuses to allow themselves to understand this, is no spiderfan at all.

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Best movie ever made.


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ok whatever this is way offtopic ,where is the mod?

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what do you mean off topic? I thought this was about all of us saying it was a good movie, and 2 people whining that it wasnt?.....my godly 150 post above hostiles......

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stay on topic, please


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They altered Spider-Man's story so they could make it work, if they did it straight from the comics, they'd have to deal with all sorts of plotholes and stuff, and it would take too long to figure out how to be done with it. We just gotta remeber, more people who only know Spider-Man know him from the movies instead of the comics.


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after seeing it 2 times...I know without a doubt...webbing or no organic webbing changes nothing in the movie.

spiderman 2 is one of the best movies of all time.

(and one of the highest rated of all time as well)

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after seeing it 2 times...I know without a doubt...webbing or no organic webbing changes nothing in the movie.

spiderman 2 is one of the best movies of all time.

(and one of the highest rated of all time as well)


The previews are cool especially the one in which
it gets black one second

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? hey were is bakerboy or the ever annoying mr.parker? I wonder were they are confused confused confused






eek! wait I JUST FIGURED OUT WERE THEY ARE!!!


THERE AT THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION stick out tongue stick out tongue laughing laughing laughing laughing

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Holy ****, dont destroy this thread too.


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