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Never, the fact is that "Open Water" was promoted as being based on true events, when the only part that was true was the divers being abandoned. That's it.


I still dont see how thats really effecting the movie for you.Alot of horror movies that said they where based on true events which is not entirely true where great.The Texas Chainsaw Massacre for istance.There was never even a guy that killed for teenagers out in the middle of nowhere.Despite it not being entirely based on true events it was still great.I dont know if your saying that that's the reason you didnt like it or your merely trying to make a point.

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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: they both died, that was true wink


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I still dont see how thats really effecting the movie for you.Alot of horror movies that said they where based on true events which is not entirely true where great.The Texas Chainsaw Massacre for istance.There was never even a guy that killed for teenagers out in the middle of nowhere.Despite it not being entirely based on true events it was still great.I dont know if your saying that that's the reason you didnt like it or your merely trying to make a point.


Kind of both. There were a lot of liberties taken to make the story interesting. Some of which upset the family of the victims, even. I don't like sitting through a movie that was totally hyped on being based on a true story, then getting to the end, having been a disappointing film, and finding it was almost ENTIRELY fabricated. I knew from the beginning that it was probably a farse, seeing as how there were no survivors to tell what really happened.

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I cant believe your holding that against the movie.It said it was based on true events and of course there was no witnesses out there to tell what happened so hollywood took over and filled in the blanks.I think all that really needed to be based on true events is the people being left out in the middle of the ocean everything else didnt have to be entirely true.Some great thrillers/horror movies out there where said to be "based on true events" even though it was'nt entirely true.

I dont see you complaing about the family members of the people that Al Geene killed that may have been upset by "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre".


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Eh, well, believe it. I know that there's a loophole in promoting something as "based on" something or another, but when they come right out at the end and RUIN any suspense that pertains to what really happened, outing their own influences, it's disappointing.

As for Ed Gein and "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre", it's a foregone conclusion that the events that took place in that movie were HIGHLY fabricated. It's funny to see how many people want to claim it happened IRL. Those same people will also tell you it was the goriest movie ever, at which I can't help but laugh my ass off.

It was 1973, and Hooper's goal was to scare America shitless. He took Ed Gein and built a story around the character, not so much his methods. Dead skin mask, yeah, that's it. He didn't use a chainsaw, he didn't live in Texas, he didn't live with his family in the backwoods, none of that. He took liberties with a PERSON, which is ENTIRELY different from taking liberties with an actual event.

Hooper shouldn't have to apologize, and I shouldn't be offended by things that never happened, of which wouldn't offend the families of Ed Gein's TWO known victims.

The fault in "Open Water" was the way it was billed as being a completely true story, which left everyone dumb founded at the end when the disclaimer, which was ironically in ULTRA SMALL PRINT ON THE DVD, rolled up, claiming that it was fictious, and yadda, yadda, yadda, similarities not implied, etc. Then, follow that up with the lid blowing off in the documentary, it just ruins the experience.

The movie didn't get me. It was tedious, boring, pretentious, and while there were times of heightened tension, it wasn't satsifying. Period.

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I dont recall it ever being proclaimed as a COMPLETELY true story embarrasment

I didnt think it was boring at all.It was very intense and times and the scary part was was that you where in the middle of the ocean and dont actually know whats under and whats around you.I like how it was filmed right in the middle of the ocean which sort of givesyou an insight into the fear that these characters are experiencing.


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It wasn't, but how far fetched can a story about being stranded in the middle of the ocean be? There's only one, possibly two, things that can possibly happen to them, making it movie worthy. Getting eaten alive by sharks, or ________.

It's just a movie that exploited people's fear, which is what "JAWS" did 1,000 times more effectively. "Open Water" just had an shitty pay off for what was an otherwise fair movie, with great acting.

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One thing I really liked in Open Water is the way it was filmed. It was amazing to see that many real sharks towards teh end of the movie. It had it's moments and I did enjoy, but it was real slow.


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it was just based on a true story... because no one really knows what really happened out there in the water.. so of course they had to make some sort of a story up as to what happened out there....

it was a good independent film smile


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Well I guess that [SPOILER - highlight to read]: they found there bodies or something. I mean people these days can find out how anyone dies, my guess it most of the movie they guessed, main outcome true!


You missed the point. The point is not that [SPOILER - highlight to read]: they died, but I do remember something along the lines of 50 minutes or so leading up to their deaths. That part, given the way the movie went, would be impossible to re-enact.


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Backfire,I thought it was a little slow to but I agree I loved how it was filmed in the middle of the ocean.I liked how the camera dipped underwater and times to give you that realistic feel.Yeah the fact that the sharks werent fake was even more spine tingling.

I thought you said a few day's ago that just because a horror movie is made about a family moving into a new house doesnt mean its an "Amtyville Horror" ripoff.Just because this film is about sharks doesnt mean the writers where trying to make the next "Jaws".They wanted to make a low-budget film with unknown actors set in the middle of an ocean.They wanted to make a realiistic and suspensful movie and they succeded.


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I thought you said a few day's ago that just because a horror movie is made about a family moving into a new house doesnt mean its an "Amtyville Horror" ripoff.Just because this film is about sharks doesnt mean the writers where trying to make the next "Jaws".They wanted to make a low-budget film with unknown actors set in the middle of an ocean.They wanted to make a realiistic and suspensful movie and they succeded.


Both "Open Water" and "JAWS" were made in exploitation of peoples fear of sharks. I felt as if "Open Water", by making it more personable and intimate tried a little harder with the realism, but it didn't work for me. Like I said, it was well acted and what have you, but the implied sense of urgency wasn't strong enough for me.

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What do you mean by "implied sense of urgency"?


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Exactly that? The way the filmmakers tried to push the stranded divers situation. They're in the middle of the ocean, and every once in a while, some sharks circle around. It just wasn't effective, IMO. I guess I'm not easily amused, lol. More gore would have sufficed.

It was just very vanilla.

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Not easily amused?You almost died when you found out a movie about a an ice cream man killer was released on dvd,lol.


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Touche, haha. I meant movie wise. I appreciate the effort, like I said, but waiting to see what happens to a couple of people lost in the water just isn't entertaining. One of them should have been eaten alive whole or something.

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Well it was a low-budget flick so I wasnt really expecting much but it was a good effort for two almost inexperienced filmakers.As ive said before I respect the fact that they funded it themselves and made it only on weekends.Foir what it was and how it was made it was decent.


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