What you are implying is that the universe was small and static albeit eternal, but the evidence is that it is expanding which contradicts your claim. The evidence shows that the universe has been expanding since its inception.
How do you know there was an inception? Actually the universe may well have been a singularity originally, or very small because it's energy density prevented it from being any smaller. Both of those are things that exist.
possibly true in SOME models if you consider physical reality outside this universe false if you reject all natural cause and effect outside the universe
stars burning out =/= universe dying, it only= US dying{and even that can be contested considering artificial fusion etc}. and stars ARE burning out all the time, because they havent burnt out YET doesnt mean they wont one day if the cold model is true. again, how does this prove the universe came from nothing?!
If the universe is expanding--and it is--that means that at one point it was exceedingly small, so small that no space for it existed i.e. that it was nothing.
The 2nd L.o.T. does not allow for an eternal universe. The universe started out at zero entropy and has increased; hence, it is dying. Anything that begins to exist will die. The universe began to exist that is why it is dying. Stars are burning out (evidence of entropy at work).
No, it does not mean that. The fact is, you don't know if it has expanded from it's beginning or if it simply started at some point during the universe's existence. Furthermore, a singularity exists. It is not nothingness. Black Holes clearly exist and have mass despite taking up no space. This universe is no different, all the mass is preserved though the space is not.
Okay... so we reach complete entropy. All the stars have been burned out, everything has reached equal temp, no work can be done... um, there's still a universe here.
With all due respect if you do your research you will learn that it is common knowledge among the scientific community that the universe started from nothing (naturally).
A quantum vacuum is defined as nothingness for all practical intents and purposes. That is what zero volume denotes.
But there hasn’t always been one so it is not eternal.
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Time is not separate from space. Time does not go anywhere. We live on a 4 dimensional bubble that is expanding in the 4th dimension. Therefore if the bubble were to begin contracting, then time would flow backward.
Last I checked, time is not entropy. You may wanna re-read the 2nd law of thermo. Not to mention, study a carbon atom. Specifically, the number of electrons in its valence shell, and why that is so important in its ability to form so many compounds. Then maybe, you'll realize why you sound like such a moron when you keep spouting off your little thermo argument.
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Still, feel free to pick up a copy of Learn2Chemistry. You obviously don't understand the topic which you're arguing about. But then again, that comes as no surprise.
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Mar 8th, 2009 02:46 AM
The universe is eternal.
