It wasn't really, we're talking about this issue. This new info can fit into the PT,
it just adds a new wrinkle, that's all. Maybe not a neccessary wrinkle.....
Don't try to put too much logic into these films, Lucas doesn't....
My post stating how he could know of the theory of being a ghost but know that
a person could completely vanish fits in the script.
And if Lucas does do this, then it is a part of his script.
Anything Lucas does is Star Wars, even if we don't like it.....
I think if you take the emotional attachment away and look at how Lucas actually has made things "work" it's quite impressive.
From the very first film, he's been re-writting his own movie's history. He re-crafts the story to fit what he currently wants it to be, and does a pretty good job of explaining things away.
The average movie watcher probably doesn't have a clue about these "holes" the rest of us die-hards see.
I applaud Lucas's ability to back-pedal. I may not like it, but lucky me to have 3 versions of each of these films to pick from.
Which script has Vader saying this? A three second shot of his black boot tapping Ben's robe hardly proves your point. Or did you read the expresion on his face when he struck Ben down? Guess what genius. THAT'S A MASK.
If they get what's going on at all.... It is all very very subtle and very hinted at. One needs to know the OT pretty well to understand these hints and subtleties to be underlying plotlines.
you know what zutalurs, i would much rather you ignore me come to think of it. i just cant take you seriously after the attacks you make. so please be true to your words, and just pretend i dont exist. it would be much appreciated
Now now, it was pretty damn clear Vader didn't get what happened. OB1 hinted at that: You can't win, Darth. When you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine....
there is a little OB1 secret going opn there.
But all that proves is that he didn't know what happened to Ben's body. I go back to my original point, OB1 was the first to do it. No one knew what to expect. But that doesn't mean that Anakin FORGOT or is LYING when he says that OB1 is gone. He's going off of what he believes. Which is that yes, there is a technique for keeping your identity in the Force, but who knows what that means?
I have several friends who enjoy the movies and have only seen each of the NT once. These same friends have only seen the OT a couple of times. Yet they understand what is going on. They also know that I'm a much bigger fan than them and ask me the minutia questions, like names of aliens or such.
but then why did vader not even suspect it, as i asked 12 times
its all just going in a big loop
its all just going in a big loop
its all just going in a big loop
its all just going in a big loop
its all just going in a big loop
BECAUSE LUCAS JUST MADE THAT PART OF THE STORY UP!
Just like Ben couldn't really be "hiding" that Vader is Lukes father in ANH. They couldn't play something that wasn't dreamt up yet. But if you look at it now, with the new knowledge, it isn't unthinkable or even unbelievable.
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