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Oh, and you have proof of this? If so I'd love to hear it, but I doubt it'll happen. It's all well and good to take shots at science for lack of proof, but not when your life philosophy is structured on blind faith in an ancient scripture. Assuming you have complete faith in the bible. Lets not forget the 'he who lives in a glass house' metaphor. roll eyes (sarcastic)


I feel that on these boards one should be compelled to express their opinions and beliefs. As I mentioned before we lack faith in the Bible but not in science which is why I juxtaposed both avenues. I am expressing my belief by saying I have faith in the Bible's devine formulation. And, I see that you concur that in the realm of science a certain air of blind faith is required.


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yes blind faith is required in the realm of science, other wise it would not have grown as much as it has you see. If scientist didnt take a blind leap over the edge sometimes, we wouldnt be as advanced as we are today.


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Well why can't this same ideal be applied to the Bible?? Just explain that to me.


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BECAUSE SCIENCE JUMPED AND CAME BACK WITH PROOF.
whereas biblical matters ask you to believ it on faith alone.


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Some scientific concepts have proof and you just dug your own grave by agreeing that science is based on blind faith. Blind faith is by definition faith in an unsubstantiated thing or concept. So make up your mind. Also, your response does not sufficiently answer my question.


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When I said 'blind faith' i meant plunging into a problem not knowing whether your right or wrong or not.that same idea cannot be applied to the bible becasue of the nature of religion.God is not something you can prove. You cant leave and come back with some sort of physial evidence that he exists.So in the end its only what you believe.


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The same goes for atoms, black holes, evolution etc.


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no, actaully there is physical proof for atoms, blackholes, evolulution etc.


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quote:
Originally posted by sonofasaiyan
I feel that on these boards one should be compelled to express their opinions and beliefs. As I mentioned before we lack faith in the Bible but not in science which is why I juxtaposed both avenues. I am expressing my belief by saying I have faith in the Bible's devine formulation. And, I see that you concur that in the realm of science a certain air of blind faith is required.


Of course, express your opinions and beliefs. And feel free to question the beliefs of others. But you must also be prepared to examine the inconsistencies in your own beliefs if you want to gain anything out of these boards. Let's not beat around the bush, the bible is full of inconsistencies and contradictions if taken literally. It hardly makes sense to disprove science in general out of a lack of proof yet believe in the numerous 'miracles' in the bible simply because it is written. I never said I believed that blind faith was required in the realm of science. Although in some cases it is. Scientists must sometimes assume certain things out of a lack of better methods to prove it. But the more advanced science becomes, the less 'blind faith' is required.

Why can't we apply that idea of blind faith to the bible? Well, you can hardly compare the two. Science is the search for answers in the present. The bible is more about ignoring the questions by putting a 'God did it' stamp over anything we don't currently understand.


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I have a spiritual side, but im not exactly ''traditionaly'' religious, if that makes sense blink


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Well were is it. I'm tired of going around in circles, have you seen a black hole or atom? No. Do you belief they exist? Yes. Lets kill this argument about belief at this juncture because we've already established the fact that you need faith to believe in both. And I'm weary of arguing with a 13 year old who is probably up past her bedtime, depending on what timezone she's in.


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no, it makes sense.

Alright. So if evolution is just 'blind faith' explain all of the fossils and reamins that paleontologist found, and are still finding, that show different species of animals slowly changing over thousands of years? Even human skeletons have been found.


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A black hole has never been seen neither has an atom, they are both purely theoretical. If you have a picture of either please show it to me. I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong.


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Well were is it. I'm tired of going around in circles, have you seen a black hole or atom? No. Do you belief they exist? Yes. Lets kill this argument about belief at this juncture because we've already established the fact that you need faith to believe in both. And I'm weary of arguing with a 13 year old who is probably up past her bedtime, depending on what timezone she's in.


assuming you mean me? roll eyes (sarcastic)

i actually dont have a bed time for your information smile


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oh, are you?? You'll have to give me a few minutes for the pictures......


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quote:
Originally posted by Zelda Lestat
assuming you mean me? roll eyes (sarcastic)

i actually dont have a bed time for your information smile


Nice to know.


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i hate it when my computer does this......piece of shit.....can you tell me what you see in this picture?


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A black hole has never been seen neither has an atom, they are both purely theoretical. If you have a picture of either please show it to me. I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong.


Enough said?

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well, who is it thats wrong now?


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