Yes, Finti, the 10 commandments we still live by. I was talking about we have an advocate w/the Father thru Jesus Christ now. We don't have to sacrifice, now, JESUS paid the price for us all.
Jesus paid the price for everyone, including you!! That is why we can now pray to the Father in Jesus name and ask forgiveness. We can have a direct one on one pray life w/him. There's no priest that have to pure themselves for hours before they go into the temple, there's no sacrifices.
I'm not sure what you are talking about here finti:
so how come the first one has change from me to trinity
NO HE DIDNT DIE FOR ME, get it in your head this is you belivers who are in for this dillusional picture.
I dont sin cause I dont believe in sin either so I dont have to ask forgivness for things I havent done wrong.
You can believe all you want but please no preaching to us who aint fooled by this fairy tale
As a Christian, you are led to belive that those who believe in Christ(CHRISTIANS) are the only ones who are forgiven and accepted into heaven, correct? Not everyone believes in Christ(or, to put it another way, not everyone is Christian), therefore, these people are f*cked.
What does that have to do with the point you were trying to make, by saying that HE didn't die for everyone?? Which in fact in did, it's our CHOICE to chose him or not. He chose us, thats why he died for everyone, but we have the choice to repent of our sins and ask Jesus Christ into our heart. Choice.
Then he DIDN'T die for EVERYONE. He died for CHRISTIANS. You said it yourself. To become saved, you must chose him. Those that don't(people who aren't Christian) are screwed.
You're going around in circles, and you need to find a way out. By that I mean that you are arguing against yourself by proving my point, inadvertently, and need to think before you answer.
No, I am not! He did die for everyone, we have the chose to chose him, he did chose us, DO you chose him? Did you repent of your sins and ask him to be your Lord and savior of your life?? We have the choice
Just out of curiosity, If I remember correctly didn't Jesus die to 'open the gates of heaven'? Does that mean everyone who died before jesus was born and never heard of his teachings were all stuck in purgatory or hell?
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You can "choose" him, but surely Jesus or God or whoever must have realized at some point that some people, despite knowing about Christianity, simply won't ever believe in it? Even if they are good people? Like if you're Jewish, you're not going to convert to Christianity just because you know it exists. The logic is totally flawed... Believe it or not, people of other religions are just as adamant as Christians are that their religion is the right one. Ever heard a Muslim talk about Islam? They insist just as much as Christians that their religion is the one true path.
thats not what FE said dude. Jesus died for everyone - for all who have sinned (and that would be everyone). Whether you want to accept that fact is your choice or not. You dont have to believe it, that is entirely up to you.
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he died for those who choose to follow him, if you care to believe in that that is. I dont believe in any of it so no one died for my sins cause I have none
Last edited by finti on Oct 18th, 2004 at 05:51 AM
Yes, it is up to me. Let's look at this situation.
Choose Jesus, (which means becoming CHRISTIAN) and be saved, or choose to have evidence of God's existence and wait it out...and eventually end up in hell.
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Oct 17th, 2004 08:44 PM
thats not what FE said dude. Jesus died for everyone - for all who have sinned (and that would be everyone). Whether you want to accept that fact is your choice or not. You dont have to believe it, that is entirely up to you.
