By people,you mean you.You don't speak for everyone.
Actually it would not be random at all.Jameson could decide he's sick of Spider-Man,and creates the Scorpion,just like in the comics.As for being 2D, do you even know anything about Mac Gargan or his background??
First of all it's Doc Ock.Second,he was not a schizo.Schizophrenic people hear imaginary voices.Octavius actually had A.I. warping his mind.He didn't imagine it.They made that more than OBVIOUS.
And third,Raimi said Ock is not dead.
So what villain is not random?? Is there supposed to be a logical progression here??
HA! Electro had loads of fans.He's one of the most popular classic villains.In fact he was the favorite for Topher to play according to a poll done in Wizard magazine.
Sucks at life?? And Eddie Brock is great at life?? Wasn't he suicidal because his life was in s***???
I think this: is the best response to that idea.
Yes,nothing says awesome like a guy in a cat skin outfit,running around New York with a spear,sniffing the ground for Spider-Man.
Clones now?? LMAO! Keep them coming.I need a good laugh
Of course it's probable,since Curt Connors is back in SM-3.
Snore to you
Why does he need Kingpin?? He never needed him in the comics.
Please tell me you're not basing this solely on the 90's cartoon.
Green Goblin 2 is practically guaranteed.
It'll be a cold day in hell,before they turn the movies into the clone saga BS.
There is hundreds more better and classic stories for them to do.They'd have to be desperate before they even consider touching the clone saga.
Wow, you just spouted off a lot of personal opinion, and a lot of B.S. because you're all pissy. Why don't you take your PMS pill and think about it. You don't like the clone saga, you don't like Venom, and think that symbiotes are bad. Well, since you shared your opinion, I'm gonna share mine. Doc Ock is a piece of crap, and wasn't done well in the movies. Also, having another Green Goblin would be repetitive in movies. Mac Gargan is a loser. Always has been, always will be. Mysterio is right behind him. Chameleon could be done well, but you'd need a much more in depth director and better actor than Topher Grace for him to be done well. You'd need an A lister to make him movie worthy. Electro is a complete and total idiot. He's not even a fearsome villain. The worst thing he's ever done was power down The Raft. He's a pest, at best. Hired thug. Big whoop. Quentin Beck would be good if they need comic relief. He's just a funny villain. Heck, he gave himself cancer. He isn't worth much. Kraven is a beast. I mean, this is another villain that isn't exactly easy to evade, and wouldn't ease up on Spidey for a minute. Do I think they'll bring him in? No. The Jackal? More than anything, anyone knows that Jackal = Clones. You don't like it? Don't buy it. Rhino = another dumb hired thug. He was never that great of a villain. Although I prefer the Jersey Rhino from the cartoon who worked with Kingpin, they wouldn't do it. Either way, Rhino is an idiot. Green Goblin 2 is not guaranteed. Harry Osbourne is guaranteed. It doesn't mean that he's gonna be the other villain. Don't bring the whole trilogy idea back into this, because there's no proof. Finally, if the did opt to do the clone saga, you'd still see the movie, so shut the hell up. You don't want the chance of Sam Raimi bringing in Venom? Go to his house, and kill him if you care so much, rather than sitting here bitching. So, Doc, just remember this. Octavius was murdered by a clone.
I think they did wondeful with Ock in the movies. I honestly was never a huge fan of him and when I heard he was the next villain I was pretty disappointed. But the movie was amazing and he pulled of a fantastic villain. I think that Venom could be a good villian for a movie, but I really hope they don't squeeze him in this next one. Surely, his character would just be a developing Eddie Brock thing leading into a hint towards Venom. That's what I hope at least.
The only pissy one around here is you.You've already got one moderator warning tonight.Want to make it two??
Maybe you'll get banned this time.
Why don't you grow a brain cell or two before you starting talking to the grown ups.
Not may do.That's why practically everything from it has been retconned or swept under the rug in the comics.Where it belongs.
Says who??
I don't want Topher Grace playing Venom.
And where the hell did I say this??
I happen to be a big fan of Carnage.
You assume that because someone doesn't want little cutie boy Topher playing Venom,and squeezed in with Sandman,that they hate Venom and all symbiotes.
Brilliant deduction there Sherlock Don't give up your day job.
Jealousy suits you.
Crap villains don't make over 785 million dollars at the box office,and make a movie one of the top 10 highest grossing movies of all time.
Oh wait I know what you're going to say.It wasn't Ock that made SM-2 a big success,it was chocolate cake girl!!!
True.
Good thing we're getting Green Goblin 2 then.
So is Eddie Brock,that's why he's suicidal and slit his wrists.
Explain why.
Wait,you're saying Chameleon takes an A list actor,but Venom doesn't??
LMAO! And you're supposed to be a Venom fan.
Oh dear,you really know very little about Electro don't you.No surprise there.
Electro is the god of electricity.He can level entire neighbourhoods,fry people to ashes with a mere flick of his finger,drain the power from any machine used against him.
Not to mention he beat Spider-Man so badly once,that Spidey begged for his life.Begged like a dog.
Anyone who thinks Electro is an idiot,is an idiot themselves for believing that.
He GAVE himself cancer??
And how exactly did he do that??
Yes I can picture it now.Spider-Man is running down a busy New York street,and hot on his heels is a doofus in a cat skin suit,waving a spear at him,maybe with a couple of lions following him.
Oh the visual excitement of it.Can you imagine the destruction and terror Kraven could bring??
Maybe he could scrape the paint off a cab door with his spear
I'm not buying it.
And thankfully,neither is Sony.
Rhino is a dumb guy.But his brains are not what makes him dangerous.It's his incredible strength.
Rhino would be great for a 10-15 minute scene where he tries to rob a bank or armoured car,and tangles with Spider-Man.
He doesn't need Kingpin for NOTHING!!!
Yeah Harry finding the Goblin lair,bringing Willem Dafoe in for a cameo to tell Harry to avenge him,that doesn't mean anything.
You keep thinking that bucko
Oh so now you're telling me what movies I would go see??
Why don't you just tell me the earth is flat,and the moon is made of cheese.It's about as intelligent as that remark you just made.
You first troll.
And my response to this BRILLIANT piece of advice:
If anyone bitches around here,it's you.
You started the insults in here.And we have the posts to prove it.Your fragile little ego can't handle the fact that alot of people don't want Venom in SM-3.
And you remember this.Brock slit his wrists and killed himself because his life is that pathetic.That's right.
At least Ock was brought back to life because all the readers were outraged he died,and Marvel realised they made a terrible mistake
lol Marcus drives me nuts. He constantly spouts off things like its fact when its his own personal opinion. Didnt he say there were going to be 7 movies or something stupid? Anyway I dont want to talk about that, lets get back on topic.
I agree with Doc in that Sandman is really just a petty criminal with super powers lol. He doesnt really get involved in big and complicated plans. Its more like, smash vault, take money, run as fast as possible and hope Spidey doesnt show up.
However, he could make some fun fight scenes. ;p This is hollywood and Sandman is a rather boring charcater with very little depth, id rather see them rape and ruin him than Venom or almost any other character lol.
I wish they would just announce who is playing what so we can stop sitting her and crying about what COULD happen. I want to cry about what is GOING to happen lol.
Oh and sandman having a wife and kid isnt too far off. People do need to remember that he is basically just a petty criminal who accidentally obtained superpowers. Boil him down and hes just a normal thug.
oh and excellent point doc about him fighting along side of SS.
Alright, I'm just gonna say it. I have my own opinions about things, and you have yours. I'm gonna just be honest right now. I didn't come here to get into arguments. I came here to discuss a character that I love. Herr Logan, Ock, and anyone else who doesn't like me can just kiss my butt. Seriously. However, I haven't lied about anything since I got here. It's not like I'm coming on here and claiming that I'm seven feet tall and can turn into a green hulk. However, everything I've said I have had backing for. I'm one of those Spidey fans who likes a certain type of villain, and it's mostly those who have some sort of twisted past or amazing backstory. Somewhere along the lines somebody stepped on my toes while I stepped on theirs, and all this crap happened. I'm really sorry about it all. I'll just try to clarify myself. I'm a big fan of the clone saga because it was a complex, scientific story that took a lot of thinking to come up with, but to be honest, it's an acquired taste. You don't like it, then it's fine. C'est la vie. I was saying the Doc Ock stuff just to get at you, and I'm sorry. In reality, I loved him in the comics, and he was one of the villains that made the cartoon. Now, just to say it, Eddie killed himself because he felt responsible for the death of Angelo Fortunado. Quentin Beck gave himself cancer with the stuff he uses all the time. It was in a Daredevil issue. If you don't want Venom in the movie, just give a good reason, like "He's a villain that needs a better director" or something like that. I'll try to keep a more open mind to things, and instead of being a jerk, I'll just ask questions. Sorry about all the hassle.
I would kill to see Venom in a Spider-man movie. However, I have such high respect for the character I dont think the big screen is ready yet. I dont think CG is at the right level. I dont think Topher is the right actor, I think we need a director who loves Venom and Venoms mythos as much as all the hardcore spidey fans do.
Venom in Spider-man three would not be the venom we know and love. He would only be some knock off or look alike.
So who is the guy causing all of the problems now.. I'm sure wutever it is Ock will take care of it.. I'm not in an arguing mood right now.. I know surprising........
Anyways back to villains.. I now think we will get Mysterio in SM3, We have seen some new pics from the SM3 set, and they are off Dunst's plays... If they are going to do alot with this, does it mean Mysterio..?? Just a thought.........
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I'm not saying it's official or anything,but it's definitely plausible,and I believe it.
It also coincides with Raimi's remark about Spidey facing double trouble.He's out numbered this time around,and in the last minute,when everything seems hopeless,Harry comes to the rescue.
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is the best response to that idea.
Jan 31st, 2006 11:21 PM
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