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srankmissingnin
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You mean where people will give him a nod to strength and speed increases even though nothing of the sort has yet been referenced or indicated?

Yeah, you're probably right there.

I think this example will make Wolverine fans feel more comfortable to claim something that was flat out written and confirmed twenty some odd years ago.

Of course if there's factors in the story that have yet to be explained then Wolverine fans using this as an out and out example of anything is premature, and will make them look like ass-hats later.

I think we all need to wait for this arc to end before we run around with convictions about the matter either way.
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It ends next month, I'm not expecting any huge bombshells to be dropped on the nature of Demonerine's powers, especially since he isn't all that important to the actual plot. Seeing Cyclops' "I'm not ****ing around" face this week, and the solicits make it pretty clear he is about to get Tower of Babel all over Wolverine next month... can't wait. Cyclops' is going to go Batman on Demonerine's ass with some Xavier Protocol-esq plans and they will put Wolverine's soul back in his body.


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iirc when sym used wolverines claws to cut colossus he didnt bleed.

You mean when syms killed him?

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yes, but colossus gave sym a beatdown once


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can we wait until an unpossessed logan cuts colossus before we make any crazy proclamations?


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Right.. cause Shamrock has Wolverine's healing fator. no expression
you're right, bas might have an issue with that, but colossus won't have a prayer in hell


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i didnt even see cut marks on colossus though all you see is blood on him..


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yes, but colossus gave sym a beatdown once

how does that help your case then? For what good is it for your case if he does not bleed but still posses same vital weakness despite this?


Also now as for the comic in question was bleeding unique ability to colossus or was that also true of all characters under that issue?

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can we wait until an unpossessed logan cuts colossus before we make any crazy proclamations?

Crazy's got nothing to do with it, Wolverine being able to cut Colossus fits into the framework of the capability of his claws.

It's been stated referenced on panel.

He's scored him before.

Colossus thinks Wolverine can cut him to the bone.

No need to assume take a position that Colossus can be cut, when there was loads of evidence suggesting that he could before this, is crazy.


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i didnt even see cut marks on colossus though all you see is blood on him..
Wolverine cheated the writer he used ketchup and folled all of us.


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Right and when I referenced to deathverine to demonverine it's because with deathverine he had some feats that didn't feat to character vs his opponents:

Such as him walking through cyclops full blast, cutting through a door X-man was holding together.

When we have seen scott blast wolverine with a direct blast, we've seen X-man do FAR FAR greater feats then holding a door together over a deathervine scratching it up.

Demonverine has fire breathe, gives Angel the "blood" eye lol and cuts collossus etc.

We'll just have to see how the arc ends.

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Crazy's got nothing to do with it, Wolverine being able to cut Colossus fits into the framework of the capability of his claws.

It's been stated referenced on panel.

He's scored him before.

Colossus thinks Wolverine can cut him to the bone.

No need to assume take a position that Colossus can be cut, when there was loads of evidence suggesting that he could before this, is crazy.
I agree logan can score colossus, but no way can he cut beyond surface...he simply nowhere near strong enough


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can we wait until an unpossessed logan cuts colossus before we make any crazy proclamations?

Nothing has been stated or suggested that his physical ability have been increased. Then there the fact there only one type of demon I know of capable of possessing bodies as there own. The reason they do this, is because they them selfs are physically weak. It was also directly stated by night crawler that demon could not utilize wolverine body as effectively as he could. So not only is there zero evidence that he was enhanced, there actually direct statements which contradict that notion.

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I agree logan can score colossus, but no way can he cut beyond surface...he simply nowhere near strong enough


Now if you had some sort of evidence to support this we might be getting somewhere. Never in Logans career has he failed to cut something because "he wasn't strong enough"... no expression


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Now if you had some sort of evidence to support this we might be getting somewhere. Never in Logans career has he failed to cut something because "he wasn't strong enough"... no expression
Wouldn't the times where he failed automatically fall into this category?


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Wouldn't the times where he failed automatically fall into this category?


Can you even tell when he failed to cut something...?

Sorry dude, it's not a place for Spidey fans


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Right and when I referenced to deathverine to demonverine it's because with deathverine he had some feats that didn't feat to character vs his opponents:

Such as him walking through cyclops full blast, cutting through a door X-man was holding together.

When we have seen scott blast wolverine with a direct blast, we've seen X-man do FAR FAR greater feats then holding a door together over a deathervine scratching it up.

Demonverine has fire breathe, gives Angel the "blood" eye lol and cuts collossus etc.

We'll just have to see how the arc ends.

what you trying to say here? I did not understand you. I not trying to be a dick, i just don't understand what your argueing.



He did that before..............and also cut through titanim before.........


a number of times............how does holding the door stop wolverien from cutting it?


cutting colossus is not some new super power.......he always been capable of doing so. Trying to pretend his stats have been increased is simply wishful thinking. They never been suggested, stated and even has been directly contradicted.




with demon being exported from his body.


You do no death wolverine upgrades were stated right, and he recieved no such phsyical upgrade out side adamatium skeleton.

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Can you even tell when he failed to cut something...?

Sorry dude, it's not a place for Spidey fans
You know the scan that I always have at hand for this.


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I agree logan can score colossus, but no way can he cut beyond surface...he simply nowhere near strong enough

based on what? Writer straight up stated colossus organic metal is no match for wolverine adamatium claws.........

It has never once been suggested that wolverien is not strong enough to cut colossus.

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Every pussy can cut through titanium. Wolverine's cut through omnium. Like it was made out of paper.

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You know the scan that I always have at hand for this.


I'm already scared laughing out loud Is that the Carver scan? smile You know Logan gouged his eye out on the next page?

Oh well, I guess it's something different. Brint it on.


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