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Homosexuality: Chosen or Genetic?
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Originally posted by dadudemon
What are you talking about...and why are you bringing it up? shifty



Also, that would be a point if.

1. I was serious with my criticism. Because this is Bardock42, you should know by now that I nit picking his posts because its Bardock42.

2. My "overuse" of ellipsis does not cause misinterpretations of my intended meaning...it furthers my thoughts and creates a break.


Since I don't have to turn this in for a paper in English class, I can type my posts in a less professional manner. However, failure to communicate my thoughts in an understandable manner is just that, a failure.

Are not Bardock's excessive eliminations of pronouns conducive to ambiguity?


Bardock was using ellipsis.


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Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Bardock was using ellipsis.


Where? Seriously, I don't see them.


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Originally posted by dadudemon
Where? Seriously, I don't see them.


Joking, right?


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Originally posted by Bardock42
Joking, right?


No.

Point it out.

The last time I checked, this was an ellipsi ----> ...



I didn't see, on the previous page, your use of an ellipsis.


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Originally posted by dadudemon
No.

Point it out.

The last time I checked, this was an ellipsi ----> ...



I didn't see, on the previous page, your use of an ellipsis.


Yeah, that is an indication of an ellipsis. But simply leaving out specific words is an ellipsis regardless of the three dots being used. So, chillmeistergen is absolutely right that I did make use of ellipsis, multiple times throughout our conversations actually.


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Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, that is an indication of an ellipsis. But simply leaving out specific words is an ellipsis regardless of the three dots being used. So, chillmeistergen is absolutely right that I did make use of ellipsis, multiple times throughout our conversations actually.



If that is the case...that is horribly wrong...


Please read here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis


and here:

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/gram...ks/ellipsis.htm


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Originally posted by dadudemon
If that is the case...that is horribly wrong...


Please read here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis


and here:

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/gram...ks/ellipsis.htm


Or you just look here:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ellipsis

Should be alright then.

[edit] Or just look at this link at the top of the page of the wikipedia article you provided: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptical_construction


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Originally posted by Bardock42
Or you just look here:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ellipsis

Should be alright then.

[edit] Or just look at this link at the top of the page of the wikipedia article you provided: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptical_construction



DAMN YOU AGAIN!!!!

When can I be right for once? sad






Still...like always...

I doesn't change my initial point that it is simply wrong and needs to be changed to make more sense. Because I am used to your posting habits, I am able to pick up MORE on your meanings than I used to be.

5 months ago I would have assumed that YOU cried and went away...because I am literal like that.


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Originally posted by dadudemon
DAMN YOU AGAIN!!!!

When can I be right for once? sad






Still...like always...

I doesn't change my initial point that it is simply wrong and needs to be changed to make more sense. Because I am used to your posting habits, I am able to pick up MORE on your meanings than I used to be.

5 months ago I would have assumed that YOU cried and went away...because I am literal like that.


It was relatively clear. At least if you take your post into account. Agreed, it takes a bit of thinking, but it's not too hard, really. Either way, I considered changing it for clarity, decided it would sound shit.


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To clarify my post for you:

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by dadudemon
I must have been in a good mood that day to laugh off you[sic] above comment like I did.


Nah,[you] just noticed that I was right and [you] went crying.


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It was relatively clear. At least if you take your post into account. Agreed, it takes a bit of thinking, but it's not too hard, really. Either way, I considered changing it for clarity, decided it would sound shit.


I agree, however, these things are lost in text, especially on one who interprets things literally. This poses problems when it comes to idioms and the first definition of ellipsis. When we are talking to each other face to face, these things are far from lost and we almost subconsciously understand each other, despite the literal interpretations of the spoken words. Relative to other ways I like to communicate, I am not one for subtle communication.

I find the way you post rather difficult at times...same thing with DK.



Also, I was obviously thinking of the text version of "ellipsis". I thought Chill's initial post about them was another jab at me for using ellipsis. Because of this, I automatically assumed that Chill's "sentence" was referring to my frequent and improper use of ellipses. Here is an example in which ellipses caused the wrong interpretation of the intended meaning. From then on out, I thought he was referring to the text version when he said you were using ellipsis. (The idea became ingrained...this type of "one track mind" is the kind of shit that gets me in trouble.)



However, in your sentence, you simply eliminated essential pronoun's that would enable your sentence to make sense. The meaning has to be derived, despite the fact that it simply is not a complete thought. The inferred meaning can be derived, however, you eliminated too many pronouns for your sentence to logically flow. Granted, you are not going for eloquence OR to be understood.


What does this have to do with chosen or genetic?

Off topic. sad


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I agree, however, these things are lost in text, especially on one who interprets things literally. This poses problems when it comes to idioms and the first definition of ellipsis. When we are talking to each other face to face, these things are far from lost and we almost subconsciously understand each other, despite the literal interpretations of the spoken words. Relative to other ways I like to communicate, I am not one for subtle communication.

I find the way you post rather difficult at times...same thing with DK.



Also, I was obviously thinking of the text version of "ellipsis". I thought Chill's initial post about them was another jab at me for using ellipsis. Because of this, I automatically assumed that Chill's "sentence" was referring to my frequent and improper use of ellipses. Here is an example in which ellipses caused the wrong interpretation of the intended meaning. From then on out, I thought he was referring to the text version when he said you were using ellipsis. (The idea became ingrained...this type of "one track mind" is the kind of shit that gets me in trouble.)



However, in your sentence, you simply eliminated essential pronoun's that would enable your sentence to make sense. The meaning has to be derived, despite the fact that it simply is not a complete thought. The inferred meaning can be derived, however, you eliminated too many pronouns for your sentence to logically flow. Granted, you are not going for eloquence OR to be understood.


What does this have to do with chosen or genetic?

Off topic. sad
Sure.


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Originally posted by dadudemon
I agree, however, these things are lost in text, especially on one who interprets things literally. This poses problems when it comes to idioms and the first definition of ellipsis. When we are talking to each other face to face, these things are far from lost and we almost subconsciously understand each other, despite the literal interpretations of the spoken words. Relative to other ways I like to communicate, I am not one for subtle communication.

I find the way you post rather difficult at times...same thing with DK.



Also, I was obviously thinking of the text version of "ellipsis". I thought Chill's initial post about them was another jab at me for using ellipsis. Because of this, I automatically assumed that Chill's "sentence" was referring to my frequent and improper use of ellipses. Here is an example in which ellipses caused the wrong interpretation of the intended meaning. From then on out, I thought he was referring to the text version when he said you were using ellipsis. (The idea became ingrained...this type of "one track mind" is the kind of shit that gets me in trouble.)



However, in your sentence, you simply eliminated essential pronoun's that would enable your sentence to make sense. The meaning has to be derived, despite the fact that it simply is not a complete thought. The inferred meaning can be derived, however, you eliminated too many pronouns for your sentence to logically flow. Granted, you are not going for eloquence OR to be understood.


What does this have to do with chosen or genetic?

Off topic. sad


Bardock's use of ellipsis doesn't seem flawed at all, to me. I made perfect sense of it without having rigidly followed the discussion.

The '...' feature of ellipsis that you seem so fixated on, is there to show that there has been an omission of words. There are other uses for it, obviously - but yeah, you do use it incorrectly rather a lot.


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Genetic... if you can't help but be attracted to someone of the same sex then it obviously is not chosen and is genetic.


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Genetic... if you can't help but be attracted to someone of the same sex then it obviously is not chosen and is genetic.
Not necessarily. Though I obviously agree with the not chosen thing.


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Does it always have to be one or the other?

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Does it always have to be one or the other?
Exactly. It doesn'T have to be.


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Not necessarily. Though I obviously agree with the not chosen thing.


Not necessarily, how?stick out tongue


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Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
Not necessarily, how?stick out tongue


It could not be a choice and it doesn't have anything to do with genetics.


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well seen as the only options we are given are Genetics and Choice laughing out loud

otherwise I would have just said a psychological defect.


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