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Not haft at all. 2 to 1 tops. Pretty much all ennis. As bad as the arc was it was never as bad as ennis. I read the arc and I really have no idea what fight your a referring to between them in the run.
In my opinion Wolverine IS better. I'm just reasonable enough to accept that it's a matter left up for debate.
BUT:
If you honestly think Wolverine is nothing more than a skilled brawler I can honestly say your forum bafoonery has reached a new limit.
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I like to assume that Wolverine and Captain America are equals in skill, BUT if someone absolutely needed to come down on one side of the fence and make an argument as to who is more skilled, all of the evidence supports it being Wolverine.
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Stands to reason really that Wolverine would be more skilled than Capt, seeing as Logan has been around so long and done so much more training, he has a massive edge over Steve in that regard.
Of course though if you have a character who has a healing factor as one of his main powers you're going to want to show it and he will be portrayed as leading with his face more because you want to show the damage soak he has.
I'm not a big Logan fan and much prefer the Blue boy scout but I can see the logic in the argument for Logan being more skilled.
Best moment in comics is when Captain America is so impressed with Wolverine that he wants to be a team with him. Wolverine says "Thanks Bub, but I don't need a sidekick" LOL!
wish I could find the comic
Haha pulling my own tactics on me. The only reason why I didn't state it was a matter of opinion is because 90% of the time you are not willing to do this. For example if we get into a debate about wether Cap can KO Wolverine you will find an excuse for every single example of Wolverine being Koed or try to pick and choose and dictate whats PIS is eg Cap can't stun bricks but its ok for Wolverine to take class 100 shots.
Not suprisingly you have noticed that I stated it wasn't a matter of opinion because this another tatic that you use. If I accuse you of doing something you then try and analyse my post and try to catch me doing it as well. You think it's a matter of opinion, but I'm sure as hell not going to bend over backwards and come half way when you don't.
What evidence you got anyway?
Read my post properly and don't take it out of context, I'm not going to explain myself again.
For heavens sake stop talking and actually analyse whats being said. How many times has Wolverien fought Punisher under Einnis. Twice. How many examples are there outside of Einnis, we have.
Carl Potts Punisher and Wolverine Jungle Saga
Wolverine and Punisher that link I just gave you
They also had a big fight in a Wolverine issue.
Thats 3/2 in favour of issues outside of Einnis
Then you cleary didn't read it properly. Go back and read it again.
The point is that Punisher is second tier and has had more trouble fighting Cap and DD, characters that use skill more often than Wolverine. Neither Cap or DD would get punked by Punisher like Wolverine has.
Yea because thats still applicable now.
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How does having more example of fights out side of ennis writing, take away from the fact Ennis down play Wolverine abilities significantly?
Wolverine takes Punisher out with a glancing shot, and then Punisher later manage to wistand wolverine for two pannels? how on earth is that comparable to ennis?
again what instance in that run are you reffering to?
Yea were wolverine mocks, him toys with him and beats him so badly into the ground he can't even get back up, despite having one sided prep. Oh and Wolverine pretty much calls him a *** after making Punisher helpless......again how on earth is this comparabale to ennis crap?
No it not, at best it 2 to 1.
I not going back an read an entire craptastic arc, simply becuase you told me. What instance are you refferring too? Actauly state what instance you are reffering to is, instead of posting an entire arc and saying "go read it" that not debating it you being childish.
how does them fairing better against Punisher = being more skilled. When there lots of factors, circumstance that differ between wolverine engagements against Punisher and theres. Not to mention how does fighting a man who using firer arms primarily equate to h2h skill champ?
Gotta love your flawed abc logic.
You wanna play this game? Ok champ. Capt had his hands filled several times with cross bones. Some one who would never be a threat to Wolverine. In fact Wolverine took him out with a single punch, something Capt has never done. So by your logic that makes Wolverine skill>>Capt.
Yea it works both ways champ.
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