Well the Baptists can't say he turned water into wine....cause that would be a bad thing, so they say it was grape juice....AND if it was grape juice, then why the talk about the new wine and the old...and the wine skins....It was wine! Paul said that "we know that the OLD wine is better...."
Also Paul said to the people he was meeting with TO EAT FIRST, so as to not be drunk when he arrived, but he didn't say NOT TO DRINK.
From the musical jesus Christ Superstar.
Jesus in Gethsemane : I only want to say,
If there is a way,
Take this cup away from me.
For I don't want to taste its poison.
Feel it burn me,
I have changed.
I'm not as sure, as when we started.
Then, I was inspired.
Now, I'm sad and tired.
Listen, surely I've exceeded expectations,
Tried for three years, seems like thirty.
Could you ask as much from any other man?But if I die,
See the saga through and do the things you ask of me,
Let them hate me, hit me, hurt me, nail me to their tree.
I'd want to know, I'd want to know, My God,
I'd want to know, I'd want to know, My God,
I'd want to see, I'd want to see, My God,
I'd want to see, I'd want to see, My God,
Why I should die.
Would I be more noticed than I ever was before?
Would the things I've said and done matter any more?
I'd have to know, I'd have to know, my Lord,
I'd have to know, I'd have to know, my Lord,
I'd have to see, I'd have to see, my Lord,
I'd have to see, I'd have to see, my Lord,
If I die what will be my reward?
If I die what will be my reward?
Have to know, have to know, my Lord,
Have to know, have to know, my Lord,
Why should I die?
Why why should I die?
Can you show me now that I would not be killed in vain?
Show me just a little of your omnipresent brain.
Show me there's a reason for you wanting me to die.
You're far to keen and where and how, but not so hot on why.
Alright, I'll die!
Just watch me die!
See, see, see how I die!
Oh, see, see how I die!
Then I was inspired.
Now, I'm sad and tired.
After all, I've tried for three years, seems like ninety.
Why then am I scared to finish what I started,
What you started - I didn't start it.
God, thy will is hard,
But you hold every card.
I will drink your cup of poison.
Nail me to your cross and break me.
Bleed me, beat me.
Kill me. Take me, now!
Before I change my mind.
What I meant was ...."Jesus never sinned?" Well some would think so, that's why some say it was really grape juice, cause he would never make a sinful drink, so they say...
Did Jesus always honor his mother and father? Well, you could say that when he said to his mother, "This woman is not my mother and these are not my brothers/family", that that was kinda disrespectful...Then saying that the only people who are his family are the believer of what he was saying...But if I remember right, his mother did believe him...Gee didn't she??
Jesus said that Mary was not his mother because he's God's son. Mary was only used to bring him to the world in an hiumble way. Its not direspectful. but of course they didnt understand..
Wine is not evil in my opinion, just as cards, music, clothes or any item is not evil...Though people can do evil things with wine...But wine can make a hear merry too...I think the Bible says that.
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hears the question. If we were suposedly created by god what created god. And i don't wont to hear the usual bullshit answer, he's just always been here. Really can sombody give me an answer.
Ok...here's something different. He/It is always in the process of being created and creating...It's always evolving, encircling, producing, encompassing, and enveloping..It's a huge mass and everything It creates is part of Its mass. There is no separation between it and its creation, just like there is no separation between you and your cells.
Do you know this? Have you had god over for dinner? Did he/she/it tell you this him/her/itself? Until then, it isn't a matter of "knowing". It's a matter of "believing".
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