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macgeek2005
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Obi-Wan and Anakin vs. Count Dooku, Mace vs. Palpatine, Yoda vs. Palpatine, Obi-Wan vs. Anakin.

Massive Space Battle at the beginning of the movie. Utapau battle (trap), Kashykk battle, Jedi Temple Raid.

You really have to be pretty stupid to think that the OT has a chance of remaining better than this.

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Apr 6th, 2005 05:19 AM

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As far as I'm concerned the Original Trilogy is in a league of its own.

It's not even worth comparing it to the PT...

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I agree very much so Dodo, but there's no point trying to reason with him...he thinks its all about the fights...

Apr 6th, 2005 06:39 PM

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macgeek2005
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It's not just the fights. It's the whole atmosphere. The Darkness. You guys are so weird.!!!!!!

Apr 6th, 2005 07:39 PM

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Darkness and "teh wickedz" saber fights make a good movie not.

Just wait and see, I highly doubt it'll come close to the originals, I'm afraid.

I used to hope that it would be amazing, but now it's looking to be merely "decent".

"Decent" simply isn't good enough.

Apr 6th, 2005 07:52 PM

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I was brought up on the OT.
Nothing can touch them in my mind.
But is that just nostalgia? I'll never know.

I'm not a massive sci-fi fan, I love movies in general - I love everything from Hitchcock to Leone to Scorsese to Tarantino.
Very few of the films in my 500+ DVD collection is sci-fi.
But I love SW.

Is ROTS going to eclipse the OT?
It never could in my mind.

But looking at it totally impartially and putting my nostalgic affections aside....
ROTS seems to be quite an acheivement.
GL has done something quite bold with the PT.
It is quite unique for a director to devote three films to an original story which everyone knows the outcome of.
Everyone who has seen the OT knew where this was leading from day one.
He has managed to keep the PT interesting and exciting, while simultaneously making it feel comfortingly familiar.

ROTS is in many ways more complex than any of the OT films.
It pulls together two films-worth of exposition in style. Looking at TPM and AOTC as separate entities is a little pointless, the PT is far more of a complete saga than the OT.
Like I said, I personally will never compare the PT with the OT, but ROTS has got everything. On paper it is just as impressive as anything in the OT.

I guess the only way to judge will be to find someone who has never even heard of SW, and show them all six films in order. That'll be the only opinion that matters in the context of this question. But it doesn't really matter much to me - I can't unlearn what I have learned....

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macgeek2005
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And that is why you might think the OT is better than ROTS. Otherwise, you'd like ROTS better.

Apr 6th, 2005 08:41 PM

macgeek2005
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hello?

Apr 7th, 2005 04:23 AM

macgeek2005
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um.. hello?

Apr 7th, 2005 07:44 PM

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ROTS's closest contender will be ESB however with the amount reaveled and how in depth we get with the workings of the universe All the things that before we could only imagine will now be shown to us

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Macgeek, I really like the PT, but I agree with Hunchy, Dodo, Superfly and Mossman.
If Nick Gillard directed the PT, filling it from bottom to top with the most spectacular fighting scenes and the coolest heroes and darkest villains ever and the ILM guys joined him, providing the greatest, coolest, complex space battle scenes ever... you STILL wouldn't have the a better trilogy than the OT.
It's not about eye-candy, man, it's about story, character and emotions...

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macgeek2005
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Story, character and emotions? Are you ****ing insane? ROTS is full of that.

Jesus ****ing christ. Are you trying to say that emotions in the OT even get close to those in ROTS?

Look at what you know about ROTS already, and honestly tell me what you think.

Apr 7th, 2005 08:36 PM

SithSpy
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Whoa down boy, thats just a mans point of view I belive he's allowed that, although i do agree with you ROTS will be right up with empire as far as story character and emotioins go

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Story, character and emotions? Are you ****ing insane? ROTS is full of that.

Jesus ****ing christ. Are you trying to say that emotions in the OT even get close to those in ROTS?

Look at what you know about ROTS already, and honestly tell me what you think.

FFS, listen carefully, you have not seen the film so how can you comment on things like emotions etc.....

Yes it well may turn out to be an excellent film, but stop trying to force your opinions on other people, m'kay? wacko

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calm down i think there both two different genre's like comparing a love flick to a horror flick you cant really compare them without comparing the genre's

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