well in World War Hulk. Hulk fought the Sentinal, who is basically Marvels "superman". the reason marvel got rid of Sentinal so many times was because Marvel thought Sentinal was too powerful and they didn't want a main character like him around too much. But when Hulk and him fought..eventually they BOTH ran outta power and reverted back to human form. Which means the Hulk does have a limit. Sure something happened and upsetted bruce and made him the hulk again, but superman's power comes from the sun..as long as that was still there..he would never power down..so eventually when Hulk reached his limit and turned back to bruce, supes would take confine or restrain him before Bruce can change back.
They fought in a comic book and Superman won, but that was by a fan vote. But I don't think Superman can beat savage hulk. Maybe he can beat professor hulk though, even though professor hulk has all the strength of savage hulk, he won't use it all because he doesn't want to loose control.
My vote goes to Hulk, even I like Superman. Because, if compared Superman has a weakness which is kryptonite and I had never heard about the weakness of Hulk. Whenever Hulk gets angry he gets stronger and more powerful. I had seen many series like Hulk vs Wolverine where Hulk always wins.
The Hulk doesn't just get his strength from anger. He gains strength from emotional stress. I'll elaborate more when I'm off work, but go to marvel.com and read the hulks bio. Also yes he beats Suerman. Hulk is no longer the dumb brute. Him and Banner are one making him far more dangerous than before!
*Continued* Superman's healing isn't close to what the Hulk's is. Everything Superman hits the Hulk with will only make him stronger, and his healing ability work that much faster/efficient. As I stated above for everyone who says Hulk has a limit of how mad he gets therefore it limits his strength... FALSE! Hulk's strength INCREASES with his EMOTIONAL STRESS!!! Marvel.com and read his bio! So no Hulk is not limited to his strength, but Superman IS. With that being said if Superman takes too much punishment his body shuts down (coma like). The Hulk that fought Superman in the early comics is NOT present day WWH Banner (strength of WWH, but him and Banner are now fighting as one). This Hulk is more than a match for Superman and if you can't admit it than I'm sorry you're just being arrogant or afraid to admit that Hulk can (not will) beat Superman... Not to get side tracked, but Red Hulk has the ability to absorb powers, so why can't he drain Superman like he did the Hulk??? He's not limited to just Gamma OR Cosmic power. Another "Hulk", a lot of people are sleeping on is SKAAR (Hulks power and Old Strong). People forget that he's only like 8. Maybe not now, but Skaar will be "The strongest there is" eventually... For now that's all. Remember Marvel.com and read their profiles.
Strength wise? They're about equal, but Hulk has more potential.
Durability wise- Supes can take a lot more before getting hurt, or cut up, but Hulk has better regenerative powers plus of course he gets hurt, gets madder so can take more as the fight goes on. So hard to say whose more durable.
Power- Supes is more powerful hands down. Speed of Light. Hulk has nothing on that.
The definition of Power is the amount of work you can do in a set time. That's basically speed.
Hulks more durable because he'll keep coming back for more and anger is not the only thing that makes him stronger (emotional stress). This new incarnation of Hulk (Banner Hulk) has Banner's mind and WWH's strengths, so his starting power is greater than Savage Hulks. While Supe might have the power advantage at first it will soon shift momentum to Hulks likings. I'll give the edge to the Hulk simply because he can take far worse a beating, heal and come back even stronger. You might get the jump on the Hulk, but because of his healing factor and unlimited strength you can never really be done with him... Unless you're Zeus and SM is NO Zeus!
Hulk will never be as "Powerful" because Speed IS Power. And Superman is Faster than light plus almost as strong as the Hulk plus has Heat Vision Hotter than a Star.
Supes could BFR Hulk into the Sun. I think that would be done with him lol
Who is more powerful.? Seems pretty easy to me. Superman and Savage Hulk are pretty much equals going by feats. Current Hulk is leagues above Savage strength wise which has been proven and stated a thousand times since WWH. If Superman and Savage Hulk are pretty much equals (Savage Hulk can potentially become stronger than Supes. The guy went from 100 tons to 1 billion tons while being in a calm state in less than a second) and Current Hulk is FAR above Savage Hulk strength wise...well, you get my point.
Who is more durable...Current Hulk by a large factor. The guy got pounded on by a skyfather and was still concious. Tanked 2 nuclear blast to the face...chewed on a mouth full of grenades which blew up in his mouth and was ok afterward. Was hit by an atomic bomb that had enough power to split the planet in half. Hulk can literally take a beating and still keep pushing. Skaar amped his strength to 100 trillion tons of force by pulling in the gravitational force of the planet and was pounding Hulk with all of this power and Hulk LET him do it and he was still at 100% of his power level and was actually holding back, even with the large amp Skaar had.
Superman is powerful but there are people out there that are as stronger or stronger and Hulk is FAR stronger than him in his current state.
As for speed... I give that to Supes but he isn't unhittable at all and he doesn't fight near the speeds Darth is throwing off...sorry buddy BUT he is faster than Hulk but Hulk has super speed as well and let's not forget that the madder he gets, his speed also increase with his other stats.
You know that Superman has become stronger as time passed by, the same goes for savage Hulk, so in other words, both are stronger then they were once. Superman pulled planets, with a little help, lifted the half of infinity 2 times (yeah it's funny but it happened on panel), split a moon in half, destroyed a shadow moon, scarred another moon with a punch. Actually he is as strong as WWH nopt holding back he should be even above WB Hulk.
Who is more durable. Superman flew through a Red Sun and got near an big amount of Knite and had still the strength and will to beat SBP. He absorbed the Mageddon Warhead. Survived without a scratch being in the center of two colliding planets. Resisted a black hole, even held one in his hand. Yeah, Superman is more durable.
His Speed is good enough to be untouchable to people like hulk, without CIS and PIS.
I give Hulk the HF though, this is his only real advantage. Rest goes to supes or if one is generous enough he will give them equal strength and equal durability (though only because of Hulks HF, Superman is "more" invulnerable).
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Just to point out that Hulk had just as impressive strength feats as these in the Savage and Green Scar personas, as Worldbreaker his strength is so high that his mere movements cause massive amounts of collateral damage.
After WWH Greg Pak stated that Superman would not have stood a chance against the Worldbreaker, Sentry was ultimately defeated by WWH who is < WB in overall stats and Sentry vs Superman would be a very close fight. In Incredible Hulk 611 when the Worldbreaker returned, Banner himself stated that neither Thor nor the rest of the Avengers could stop him (Thor was present when this was said with no objection, just saying) and to run (which they did) so Skaar could step up. Even with a 100 trillion ton amp Skaar was no match, overpowered with 1 arm and treated like nothing.
Supes, Thor, Sentry & this amped Skaar are roughly equals physically but WB beat his son to the ground in 2 punches while holding back, while a lower power level beat Sentry.
WWH holding together planet Skaar with nothing but brute strength is far greater than Superman pulling a planet with the aid of someone helping him. Superman got koed by the shadow moon and had to accelerate himself at high speeds to even accomplish the feat. It isn't a ft of strength, it relies on durability and he got koed by it. The other moon ft, he had to accelerate yet again to accomplish that ft. A weak feeble Hulk did FAR better. He destroyed a meteor TWICE the size of earth and was still at 100% and this was grey hulk...someone that would get killed by WWH with one punch.
Then Hulk was generating 100's of trillions of tons of force with a mere step. You have nothing to prove any Herald is capable of that except using just assumptions.
Superman isn't even close to WWH level of strength and this was stated by numerous of writer so how in the world is he close to world breaker hulk. Both of these Hulks would kill him if they chose to...its not bad to have Hulk above you physically...that is his power, to potentially grow to unknown levels.
Your FTs proved nothing since a weaker Hulk has done better. Savage and Supes are the same strength and WWH is above both. You use ones ft to aid you in thinking that a none holding back Supes is stronger than Hulk when we have a none holding back Supes failing to take out a holding back Wonder Woman.
You dnt seem to be differentiating between Strength and Power.
As I pointed out before the Definition of Power is the amount of time it takes to do a certain amount of work.. The Less Time it takes the More Powerful you are. I.e Speed is Power.
Of course Strength comes into that equation as well, because if you dnt have the Strength to lift a Car for instance, then it doesnt matter how fast you are you will never lift it.
But Superman's Powers which are essentially made up of of an almost unlimited amount of Strength and Speed approaching Light is basically equal to Pure Power.
Whilst Hulk may well be the Strongest one there is Supes unmeasurable Strength combined with his Speed surely makes him the more Powerful.
Responding the same as the other Hulk Supes fight. Until Hulk shows the power to move a machine that is as big as the Earth, Moon, and all the space in between the two, Hulk has nothing on Supes in strength. Supes strength is strong enough to knock out Hulk before he becomes strong enough to make any difference. Supes moved the the Mageddon Machine which was just that big. He survived two planets colliding and being in the epicenter. He was unconcious but showed no other sign of damage. So in that regard, Hulk coudnt even knock Supes out. Superman is just way to powerful for any version of Hulk.
IIRC Superman powered Mageddon with his energies not through brute strength and Superman was KO'd by the two planets colliding and has also been knocked out by far less. Hulk is a strong as Superman from the outset since his upgrade about 5 years ago. They start out evenly matched in strength and durability but the difference is Hulks stats get higher.
Everything isn't about speed my friend. The thing you are failing to undrstand is that the more anger he get, not only does his strength increase but his speed and durability does as well. Current Hulk has complete control of his power and his strength. In a fight, Hulk should be more formidable. I would rather have Hulk against Doomsday, Konvikt, Despero, etc, etc...because his power doesn't have a cap...he is more formidable.
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