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Doctor-Alvis
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Why would your body fight off hormones that were introduced with the tetanus vaccine if they're already there in the first place? And cancer virus?

My plan for a yearly Shotgun Bonanza Madness Weekend would be much more effective than secret injections.


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The world isn't really overpopulated yet, but if the need should arise, put birth restrictions such as the one-child rule, enforced in China.


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The world isn't over-populated yet? I'd love to live where you are, bro.

Coz on Earth we're swamped wink.

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Yup. Move to Canada, mate. big grin Calgary's perfect...not too crowded, not too quiet.


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Yup. Move to Canada, mate. big grin Calgary's perfect...not too crowded, not too quiet.


I should hope not, ever since that lambasting at the hands of the ALMIGHTY *joke here* Tampa Bay Lightning.


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The world isn't really overpopulated yet, but if the need should arise, put birth restrictions such as the one-child rule, enforced in China.
Right now we don't have the means to grow enough food to feed everyone on the planet, and the population is growing faster than the increase in production.

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Right now we don't have the means to grow enough food to feed everyone on the planet, and the population is growing faster than the increase in production.


Actually there is plenty of food to go around. Alot of food such as grain and vegetable crops go rotten and are wasted away. The problem is that specific quotas have to be met, if exceeded the surplus crops are destroyed or just left to waste away.

However, there are wayyyyyyy too many people on this fricken rock, although we can feed them all, we cannot support the waste that they create. Eventually we will all die off, or at least a large chunk of the population anyway, the earth has a way of balancing itself out.


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The same stuff you are on?


can u like stop insulting ppl, and get on topic?

anyways I duo what we could do to lower the rateof world population... making abortion in everycountry legal, make condoms cheaper... I dunno

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Actually there is plenty of food to go around. Alot of food such as grain and vegetable crops go rotten and are wasted away. The problem is that specific quotas have to be met, if exceeded the surplus crops are destroyed or just left to waste away.

However, there are wayyyyyyy too many people on this fricken rock, although we can feed them all, we cannot support the waste that they create. Eventually we will all die off, or at least a large chunk of the population anyway, the earth has a way of balancing itself out.
In environmental science class, we learned that there is not enough food to go around. There was for most of human existence but not too long ago the population exceeded the food production.

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Plans must be made to remove at least 4 billion people from the globe in the next few decades if humanity is to survive the upcoming energy crash. This brazen prescription did not come from the Club of Rome, though they most certainly would endorse it. Nor did it come from the Rockefeller Foundation, though they would be more than happy to fund it...

It came from Michael C. Ruppert, author of Crossing the Rubicon, creator of From The Wilderness (http://www.copvcia.com), and avowed defender of human freedom. In Ruppert, unlearners have another excellent example of how even the best of intentions can be seduced into the Illuminati plot.

Having viewed Mr. Ruppert in action personally, I can honestly say that he appears to me to be a man of integrity. He has lived a life of struggle and has worked tirelessly to expose the corruption of the US government and the global financiers who are reaping the short-term benefits of laundering drug money through national economies. On top of that, he has surrounded himself with an excellent cast of characters, such as Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, who are equally dedicated to the agenda of waking people up. Mr. Ruppert and his cohorts continue to provide crucial information necessary to the unlearning process.

Knowing all of the above, it was extremely shocking to read Ruppert's endorsement of the Malthusian worldview. Michael himself is well aware that the Illuminati organizations that control the world are on the same page with his conclusions. The only difference is that Ruppert recommends that the Global Elite not be the ones to make the decisions as to who gets the "Get Out of Earth Free" Monopoly cards.

The Earth has reached the point where human consciousness will no longer tolerate authoritarian controls on its destiny. The Illuminists know this and plan to break this spirit with a harvest of blood reaped with war, famine and misery. Ruppert would have us spare the Illuminati the trouble of such an expensive use of energy by getting the most "enlightened" of us to sheepishly march to our own end. Those who remain alive must do so in communities that will seem more medieval than post-modern.

Fortunately, there is a way out of all this, if the planet is willing to see through the present "crisis". The crisis we are in is not one of energy or economy, but of consciousness. As long as our consciousness remains mired in the present problems, we will not be able to transcend them to arrive at enlightened solutions.

Do we live in an abundant universe or a finite one? If you choose the latter, then Ruppert and the New World Order is the place for you. Sign up now for your World Citizen ID card, get your microchip implanted, and enjoy the show that the satellites will soon be beaming down into your mind. The world will be a friendlier place than this one, or so they promise!

If you believe in the former, that an abundant universe is at your disposal and that it is indeed part of who you are, then one shining truth becomes patently obvious.

There is no energy crisis.

To manifest this world, everyone must summon up all their courage and power and demand that the manipulation of information stop at once. Nothing short of complete access to all information, still held privy by governments, churches, corporations, and NGOs must be given to everyone who desires to know. This means the common people must finally receive the information that governments and the media have purposefully withheld for so long, information on which they have profited. Only then can humanity properly chart the course of its future.

If such a thing happens, Mr. Ruppert may well be partially vindicated. We indeed could be running out of oil, abiotic or not. But I dare say that it wouldn't matter anymore.


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I would love to live somewhere in Canada. Even my family who live their say it's gorgeous.

So I'm guessing if you can't get jaded by the place you live, it MUST be sweet.

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Interesting reading: http://www.overpopulation.com/faq/N...oving_food.html

Although I will agree that the world's Oceans are being taxed and overfished, and that there are definite food shortages in developing countries, I still (at thios moment) am under the belief that the proper management and farming of first world nations can provide enough food for the world's population at this point in time.

The biggest problem is the threat of enviromental changes, corporate greed and government policy. Many taxes and tariffs effect the export of food and thus quotas are applied and enforced.

And what leads you to believe that people in Canada aren't jaded AC?


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I can't speak towards teh goals of this supposed New World Order, but concentrated reduction in the population of this planet is the key to a successful future for the human race.


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And what leads you to believe that people in Canada aren't jaded AC?


Not people as a whole. Just the ones I've interacted with.

I find it fairly hard to appreciate my city/country because it's just same old to me.

The people I know from Canada don't SEEM to share that. Which is a good thing.

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I was watching it with some interest but stopped when the guy said "cancer virus." WTF? Cancer isn't caused by a virus. roll eyes (sarcastic)

In fact I highly doubt you could inject any substance that would give a person cancer were it injected only once. Not to mention the very premise of killing off people in third world countries by using vaccines of any kind is ridiculous, since very, very few people in those countries have access to any kind of medical care in the first place.


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Actually there is plenty of food to go around. Alot of food such as grain and vegetable crops go rotten and are wasted away. The problem is that specific quotas have to be met, if exceeded the surplus crops are destroyed or just left to waste away.

However, there are wayyyyyyy too many people on this fricken rock, although we can feed them all, we cannot support the waste that they create. Eventually we will all die off, or at least a large chunk of the population anyway, the earth has a way of balancing itself out.


Have you ever heard of the concept of carrying capacity, KD? It's the theory that an environment has a limited number of individuals of any one species that it can support. If you were to draw a line graph representing the number of, say, coyotes, in a certain area, you'd see that the line was basically a wave going over and beneath the fixed carrying capacity. In a stable population, the wave is very shallow and doesn't go very far above or below the carrying capacity.

There is only a limited number of people the planet can support (especially without killing off all the other species), and at the moment we're way over that carrying capacity. In short, we're due for a die-off real soon.


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Have you ever heard of the concept of carrying capacity, KD? It's the theory that an environment has a limited number of individuals of any one species that it can support. If you were to draw a line graph representing the number of, say, coyotes, in a certain area, you'd see that the line was basically a wave going over and beneath the fixed carrying capacity. In a stable population, the wave is very shallow and doesn't go very far above or below the carrying capacity.

There is only a limited number of people the planet can support (especially without killing off all the other species), and at the moment we're way over that carrying capacity. In short, we're due for a die-off real soon.


I am aware of the concept of carrying capacity, I am also aware that humans, unlike coyotes, have the ability to manipulate their environment. This prolongs their ability to stay in an environment and utilize its resources, but will also result in sudden extinction rather than a slow die off.

I think that you are under the belief that I disagree with the notion that the world is overpopulated. If you read my posts you would see that I believe that the world is currently overpopulated, however, I am also under the understanding that currently there are enough resources to feed the world's population but that, just because of the way things work in our world, that isn't happening.

However eventually, as the population continues to rise, more intense farming will deplete soils, oceans will (are) be overfished, waste will build up, clean water will be contaminated, and so on and so on.


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Hmm well i don't think we should make plans aboot population as long as we don't have a goal we want to go to....


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I was watching it with some interest but stopped when the guy said "cancer virus." WTF? Cancer isn't caused by a virus. roll eyes (sarcastic)


cancer virus
i think it is possible that there cud be vaccine that cud trigger off cancer
watch the video


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