Registered: Feb 2005
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I have no clue where I went wrong then. But Master Vrook was slicing me down in two attacks unless I stopped and used heavy energy shields every five seconds. And he force healed so damn much I couldn't kill em
Hmm, Vrook. Was that the guy on Dantooine? He was the only one who actually made a challenge. I think the clue there was either to depend all on Powers or all on saber fighting, not a mix of both.
it depends when you take him on...if you do dantooine last and are level 23 or something you'll paint the walls with him, but if you take him on early you die rather quickly
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I don't have too much a problem with Korriban. Plus it's small, meaning i get everything done fast and am stocked up for the longer hauls on other planets.
Actually he does just backwards, listen to his sound viles and play them back..
And the theory about Darth Nihilus being you or something like that is in my oppinion kinda far fetched.
Remember that at the battle of Malachor there were dozens if not hundreds of Jedi. A lot of them crashed on the planet itself and when the planet blew up or something like that a few Jedi proably landed on it.
The Exile took the thing very personal and lost his connection with the force because the endless sound of the death kept going on in his head, the same could have happened to Nihilus, he shoudl not have taken it that personal, and maybe thats why he had the reverse effect, instead of being weakened he grew stronger.
Kreia says herself that they were trained there and then one day got a ship repaired it or something and left. Thats reason enough for me to believe that Nihilus and Sion were nothing before Malachor, or at least not anything important.
Nihilus could have drawn his power from the events at Malachor, as Sion could have. The only thing is though that Sion used it to reinforce his body whil Nihilus just ate it all up in a matter of speaking.
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I forget where I posted the argument on here that Nihilus is the manifestation of the exile's own powers and personal dark force spectre, but I can't recall where I put it. Anyways, if Nihilus -isn't- the dark reflection of the exile in living flesh, answer me this-
- Why does Nihilus dissolve after the battle?
- Why do you regain some of your lost Force ability after ordering Visas to bring you his mask?
- Why is it that while many Sith, including Kreia and Sion and the assassins, utilized the same newfound abilities as the Exile, it was only on feeding on the exile that Nihilus was weakened?
- Why does he talk backwards? (As I believe you said, he does. And what does he say, too? I'm very curious.)
- Why would Visas share a bond with both Nihilus and the exile, and yet not die when Nihilus was destroyed?
- This is speculation, but if Nihilus is the exile's dark persona come to life, could the Ravager be the ship on which the exile and Bao Dur watched as the mass Shadow generator tore into the Mandalorian and Republic ranks?
- Jedi who were betrayed at Malachor and killed in the devastation by Revan were those whose loyalties to Revan were in question. Kreia knew this. Others did as well, I imagine. If Nihilus was just another Jedi who somehow landed on Malachor and survived the subsequent destruction, why did he not pursue Revan? Why, instead, did he stay in the fringes of known space and only make a few appearances?
- Nihilus' presence has a powerful affect on those nearby, from the mindless bridge officiers to the corrupted body and soul of Colonel Tobin. Did not the exile have a similar bonding/changing affect on those close to him/her?
Kreia says that the war being waged is not in space or on battlefields, but is being waged within, and through the Force. Perhaps the Aesop's fable-like point of the whole plot is one Jedi's quest to confront his evil past and his darker demons and to reclaim his soul as whole and new. To finally make the right choice instead of the wrong one.
To add to your points, some people say although i have not heard it myself yet that there are sound files still present on the X-box and possibly the CD version that make Kreia claim you two are indeed the same.
Also Visas is supposed to have said something like that.
Also there are certain rumours about the unfinished story line that Revan would return to Malachor when you are there... Personally i just think and some audio files seem to kinda support this that,
Revan left known space after what happened at the star forge becuase he went to Malachor and sensed Nihilus there. He saw what that thing was and feared it, as he could not beat it. It was just as powerful as him and constantly kept growing and weakening with him (seeing as Malachor had no other live there was no real chance for him to draw from anything else and get an advantage)
Revan knew there was very little he could do against it so he asked his former master Kreia to do something for him... Do something or die probably, Kreia of course agreed. So she was send to learn more about Nihilus. Promised him power and promised to teach him and then when she learned enough about him she knew that there had to be somebody else out there just like that. She asked Revan about it, and wanted to go find that other person.
Revan gave her the Ebon Hawk with T3-M4 and the broken down HK-47 on it... So she started looking for the Exile found him, Kotor II happens... Then after the char from kotor II kills Nihilus and kills Kreia on Malachor Revan is supposed to show up...
Depending on whether you are light and dark and what revan was you two fight or do not fight.. Dark - Light fights, but Dark - Dark does not. Anyways your not supposed to win that fight... Revan supposedly leaves you to die on that planet...
You saw the fight with Revan in that cave in Coruscant? Its basicly your live. Where at the end you can choose between Kreia and your friends, dark or light, power or love. After that Revan shows up and beats the crap out of you. That Revan was very powerful but had very little life. The one you shoudl have faced at the end of the game, had a lot of life... The only reason you were ever alive, the only reason Kotor II happend was for you to kill Nihilus.
Thats what Revan used you for, the fact that Kreia had higher goals for you hardly meant anything. At least not to Revan as he would just kill her and you if you two could not kill Nihilus.
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Fascinating. If that was the case, I give a proper bow to Revan for a game well played. Using the Exile to defeat his self-made wound and making the galaxy safe for your rule without so much as having to get your hands dirty is an excellent demonstration of the manipulation that both Kreia and Revan were famous for.
I need to get the PC version of the game. I imagine it looks better and there's more one can do with it. But for right now, I'm without funds.
Yeah thats pretty much what i could gather from the game and from what i read on Obsidian and LA forums... Talked to a few people about this, and it seems to fit in perfectly with the sound files. So thats most likely what should have happened, not to mention that it explains a lot of things that were never explained in game...
Its hardly an improvement, it only allows better Graphics.. the months extra they had were not spend in finishing the game... The only real advantage is that you can listen to some files you can't do on X-box, a real downside is however that the X-box version has more of these files on the CD then the PC version has, so if you want them all you need the PC and X-box version and need to find a way to transfer files from X-box to PC...
Anyways my point here is, don't buy it for PC... Unless you really want to have it on PC, there isn't any real difference
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Last edited by Fishy on Apr 23rd, 2005 at 05:28 PM
Yeah okay you can do that... Although you won't actually see a console, i just started replaying with cheats and its damn annoying to not see what you are typing and if you are actually typing it. Thankfulyl there are save game editors
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Lovely. Well, with any luck, it's fairly close to the original, which I've played recently with cheats. Replaying the original makes me appreciate II soooo much more.
No level caps. More diversified items and weapons. Better AI. Better dialogue responses and more of them. A reason to have awareness and other skills. Jedi ROBES, not skintight pajamas. Corrupting allies. More actual killing of humanoids than anything. Interesting feats and powers to choose from. Sidequests are less demanding and boring. No invincible NPCs (Like Calo Nord or the Sith trooper outside fo the elevator.) Battles seemed more fun. Better replay value.
Mar 15th, 2005 06:01 AM
